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Old 08-22-2017, 10:35 PM   #91
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On 2nd listen, it seems like during the chorus that they're trying to ape that version of "Hurt" that Rick Rubin did with Johnny Cash.
Fuck this shitty Billy Corgan music. Listen to something awesome instead, like this:

https://soundcloud.com/hobosage/sacr...ights-reserved

 
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:30 PM   #92
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I hate Billy's vibrato as much as anyone but I honestly didn't notice any, or at least find it distracting, in this

 
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:35 PM   #93
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Lyrics kinda make this sound like it's about the death of the Pumpkins

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I went down the middle
The world survives
I ended the band to try to compromise, but life still goes on without it

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One little mind to ease off
One silver drum that beats
It's just me left, trying to replace an amazing drummer

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This mountain was torn from us
Our success and reputation was destroyed

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If I'm leaving you without return a snare
Can a boy float through time and space
You can call it home if you wish or if it's fair
If I'm exploring genres and doing weird shit, you can like it if you want


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Lovers won't you mourn with me
Fans, won't you accept the band is over

 
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:43 PM   #94
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nevermind, relistened on headphones, vibrato is awful

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:17 AM   #95
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Lyrics

"If I'm leaving you without return a snare"

>>>

'...withou ret- uuuuuuurn...'

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:01 AM   #96
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I like it

also it sounds more like Within You Without You than Imagine

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:08 AM   #97
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calling out a song for sounding like another song is pleb tier criticism, there's only so many keys and chord progressions possible, everything under the sun has already been done before.

and how can heavy vibrato be considered awful? It's rooted in classical music and a component of heavy rock and metal as well.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:14 AM   #98
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he's been doing that drawn out descending vocal line for a while now too, listen to Age of Innocence, or the alt version of Speed Kills, this just feels like a progression of it

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:18 AM   #99
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also pls release the MACHINA releases WPC

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:36 AM   #100
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:31 AM   #101
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Branded merch at Toys R Us, starting September 20th, comes with any purchase over USD 3.

Could someone grab a copy for me?



 
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Old 08-23-2017, 09:38 AM   #102
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Based on the song, but mostly because of the singing, this could be the first Corgan-related album I stay well clear of.

Has there ever been an interview / question where he's been asked about his singing style? He's used that vibrato since Zwan and it's only gotten worse.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 10:49 AM   #103
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Here's a great summary of the new single from Spin..

“Aeronaut,” the first single from the album, is a percussion-less, orchestral ballad driven by Corgan’s bright, clunky piano. The lyrics are a meandering poem about space, mourning, meadows, ether, the air being alive, and stuff.

http://www.spin.com/2017/08/billy-co..._medium=button

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:12 AM   #104
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i like the song, the direction, etc

but ... vocals ... lovers

has no one in Bill's inner circle ever told him: Look bro, the vibrato sucks and when you sing lover all the time its creepy ........... anyone he respects ever told him that? ...... Rick Rubin wasn't up to the task?

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:21 PM   #105
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Old 08-23-2017, 01:58 PM   #106
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So.... eeeh.

Science Fiction is a fucking incredible album, huh?

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 02:49 PM   #107
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Aeronaut sounds exactly like Amsterdam by Coldplay.

But hey they ripped off Hummer on one of their new songs so yeah.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 02:49 PM   #108
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Absolutely stunning song. First time I have heard real emotion in his voice for a whole. You're all deaf or something. Best work I have heard from Billy for a while. Can't stop listening, hope the rest of the album is as brilliant as this.
Same here!! really catchy!

Anyone done the lyrics?

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:43 PM   #109
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Now for sale on Reverb: the generic midi file used by billy to play piano loop with prepakaged Pro Tools piano plugin. Sale price: $30000, private auction, no bids? Fuck you no longer for sale you fucked it up.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:06 PM   #110
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Seriously why so much vibrato hate?! It's fine... When he sings it live he probably will just sing the notes normal as he doesn't have such time and not possible to be as delicate.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 06:02 PM   #111
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Song for Judy is a song that comes to mind after listening to Aeronaut. Sadly Song for Judy is way better, even though I liked Aeronaut.


 
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Old 08-23-2017, 06:04 PM   #112
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This is like standing up from the toilet, admiring a big, long turd you just cut and then realizing you're staring at shit and you immediately flush in a wave of shame.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:12 PM   #113
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yeah the problem with this one resides almost entirely with the vocal delivery
song's fine, maybe a couple lyric changes but who cares when he's breaking up the words like that anyway
and sure, a line of percussion or two wouldn't hurt. that's the problem with most '07 & onward Corgan work though, isn't it. it's almost all "could've been great" rather than "is great"
and Aeronaut's an easy inclusion to the former

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:31 PM   #114
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I've listened to this a few times now and the only things I can honestly recall sonically about the song is the bad vocal and cheap sounding keyboard that was used on it.

Bad vocal, nonsensical lyrics and a title that has nothing to do with the song in any way, shape or form... yup, business as usual in camp Billy.

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:22 PM   #115
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This is seriously not good. :/

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:50 PM   #116
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Corgans just an old corny guy in his 50's... What kind of music would you expect?

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 09:42 PM   #117
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I expect Viking Metal

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 09:47 PM   #118
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the vocals are really the only thing keeping me from truly "embracing" this one

when listening the second time, i pictured the vocal coming from a Mellon Collie -era BC delivery and it sounded so good in my head. i maintain that his songwriting hasn't suffered all that much over the years its just the arbitrary "techniques" he continues to insist on throwing in that fuck it all up

oh and the titles are kinda dumb but what are you gonna do

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:08 PM   #119
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huh, this isn't too bad aside from the vocals. reminds me of hideout-era zwan.

i like this more than anything to come out since SP2

 
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:37 PM   #120
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Corgans just an old corny guy in his 50's... What kind of music would you expect?
yeah there are no musicians in their 50s who put out good music. once you are in your 50s, you can only make "corny old guy" music.

 
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