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Old 01-08-2019, 07:39 PM   #91
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I don't see how ZG wouldn't give you the same feeling, that's just me

both these releases are "embarrassing" fan only type of releases

you won't catch me blasting it with the windows down

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:42 PM   #92
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I thought a type of deal where a mutli-plat rockstar would do a big Soundcloud-esque release showing his process bad and good was pretty neat

I wasn't looking at these songs like "wow now it's shameful to be an SP fan" because Corgan released some shitty solo music with the name on his introduction to HTML website

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:46 PM   #93
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teargarden is literally the worst album I have ever heard by any band

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:09 PM   #94
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yeah well what if it isn't an album huh

maybe your bad for thinking about it that way

I never listen to it in album form

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:02 PM   #95
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it isn't an album

he wanted it to be, i'm sure. but as is it's just some random songs scattered around, i don't even fuckin' remember half of them by this point

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:54 PM   #96
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I'm surprised at the positivity surrounding Teargarden.

I revisited a few of the tracks and it's just as bad as I remembered. Seems like he had terrible writers block or something. The material is really straight forward and basic. Nothing to sink your teeth into at all and the melodies themselves are uninteresting... Not to mention the terrible singing and drumming.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:34 PM   #97
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Such rabid defense of disagreeable mediocrity. If I had to pick 2 "salvageable" songs they would be Tom Tom and only the guitar solo in Song For A Son

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:40 PM   #98
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Tom Tom is as bad as widow wake my mind

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:17 AM   #99
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wtf

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:26 AM   #100
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WWMM is untouchable in the worst way

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:27 AM   #101
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Gastral Pains and Spangled come close though

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:29 AM   #102
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WWMM is untouchable in the worst way
Astral Planes, Stich In Time and Owata come close...

Man, that first E.P really was brutal. It's too bad cause he seemed like he really wanted to take on the dinosaur major labels so I imagined we'd see his best work as a fight against them but man... What a let down that was.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:42 AM   #103
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Songs sounded a lot better live. ESPECIALLY those early Freak performances.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:09 AM   #104
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here comes the boring man gonna bore you so much you die

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:26 AM   #105
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it's definitely boring but WWMM makes me physically cringe

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:28 AM   #106
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And yeah Fuzzy, Owata is on that level too. COOL IN UR POCKET ROX 4 UR ROCKET

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:10 AM   #107
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cox in your socket

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:06 PM   #108
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Stitch in Time is ok

Don't care for this casual dumping of it into the "shit pile" by some of you

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:44 PM   #109
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GASTRAL PAINS


LOL NICE ONE ILP

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:44 PM   #110
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only song i've heard from this poop-pile is widow bake my mind and that was just cos i wanted to see the mormon choir


LOL

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:57 PM   #111
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Don't get me wrong, it's all complete ass.

But in Astral Planes, the chorus of cacophonous multi-layered guitars sounds like something that could have been awesome in an SP1 song. It's the same throughout Bill's post-2003 work - there are moments that remind you how much better this music might've turned out in the original band.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:11 PM   #112
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I used to love TbK, but then I realized half the tracks I loved were actually American Gothic or b-sides from Zeitgeist, and then upon closer inspection, TbK was just alright.

Had it been released as an album, I believe it would have been poorly received. The fact that it was released sort of in a throwaway fashion kept critics from judging it as harshly, because when you release an album, you're calling for the spot light. In fact, I think Billy knew the new material was not going to win any new fans, so he tried to call it an EP, but since James was in the mix, there was pressure to cast it as a comeback album, so that happened, and it flopped in the spot light that it didn't want. It goes to show, if Billy wants to play another publicity card, he had better have some avant garde experimental art rock ready to go, no more of this phoned in filler material.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:31 PM   #113
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no, the plan was to release 2 EP's.. he never tried to call Shiny an ep.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:04 PM   #114
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It goes to show, if Billy wants to play another publicity card, he had better have some avant garde experimental art rock ready to go, no more of this phoned in filler material.
Like.... TbK!!!

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:09 PM   #115
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Tom tom is pure fkn class. Should have been on Oceania and should have been a single.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:13 PM   #116
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I listened to all the songs in the OP at work and my boss docked me two hours' pay

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:24 PM   #117
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best version of a stitch in time, the drums add a lot to the song:

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:28 PM   #118
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I would rather do something hyperbolically unpleasant than listen to TbK.

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:35 PM   #119
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I like Lightning Strikes a lot. Very well written song

 
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:38 PM   #120
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I used to love TbK, but then I realized half the tracks I loved were actually American Gothic or b-sides from Zeitgeist, and then upon closer inspection, TbK was just alright.
Just a quick question: are you an idiot?

 
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