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Old 01-07-2019, 11:38 PM   #61
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project would have been alright if he stuck to a once a month schedule or something

2 and half months plus for Astral Planes was hilarious
how about when the first EP was finished and there was radio silence for NINE MONTHS before the next song was released?

some people posting in this thread are absolutely deranged. save for Tom Tom and Freak, nothing here even approaches mediocre. it's literally the worst album I have ever heard. it's so bad it's repulsive. it makes me sick even remembering how painful it was to live through that period as a fan. you people are sick. you need help. even fuzzyroes can see the truth here. open your eyes

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It seems like the work of a man losing his mind

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:38 PM   #62
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i could forgive Zeitgeist, despite hating it. or at least ignore it and pretend the story was over after m2. but no, then this. and then ALL of this.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:50 PM   #63
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Tom Tom is fucking brilliant and I will fight anyone who disagrees

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:51 PM   #64
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Rest of the album is poop

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:53 PM   #65
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Like who

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:54 PM   #66
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you know there's other artists you might find spending your time on is more worthwhile
Who?

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:26 AM   #67
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the most shocking thing here is that it's been almost a decade since this debacle happened.
Hard to believe it was that long ago... Really illustrates the artistic degeneration for Billy Corgan, especially when considering Gish-MCIS era was within a 5 year period.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:45 AM   #68
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I'm going to pull a foolfBORIS fuzzzy Fleetwood and point out that THE FALL made good albums for 4 straight decades

like not just passable for fans, but genuinely put it on the goddamn fridge great albums

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:51 AM   #69
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man roll'd out on a fuckin wheelchair and gave us "Your Future Our Clutter"

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:57 AM   #70
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some people posting in this thread are absolutely deranged. save for Tom Tom and Freak, nothing here even approaches mediocre. it's literally the worst album I have ever heard. it's so bad it's repulsive. it makes me sick even remembering how painful it was to live through that period as a fan. you people are sick. you need help. even fuzzyroes can see the truth here. open your eyes
idk the fact that everyone agrees there's like 2 salvageable songs on TBK but nobody agrees which 2 they are suggests there might have been something there

I am partial towards Lightning Strikes and Stitch in Time

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:07 AM   #71
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:23 AM   #72
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Tom Tom is an SP2 highlight
Until you hear the original Backwards Clock Society version. THIS should have been Billy's main gig: a stripped-back psychedelic 3 piece. But of course Billy needed to shoehorn authentic artistry into commercial radio fodder for SP2.

This is how TBK should have sounded:


 
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:44 AM   #73
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Until you hear the original Backwards Clock Society version. THIS should have been Billy's main gig: a stripped-back psychedelic 3 piece. But of course Billy needed to shoehorn authentic artistry into commercial radio fodder for SP2.

This is how TBK should have sounded:

I prefer the guitar intro and verses here, but the chorus doesn’t have the same punch as the studio version.

It’s one of those songs you imagine could’ve been a minor hit in an alternate timeline where Billy didn’t piss everything away chasing that “radio hit sound” that no radio ever plays.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:56 AM   #74
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Until you hear the original Backwards Clock Society version. THIS should have been Billy's main gig: a stripped-back psychedelic 3 piece. But of course Billy needed to shoehorn authentic artistry into commercial radio fodder for SP2.

This is how TBK should have sounded:

that's a really good way of describing his downfall as an artist: the need to put that commercial sheen on everything.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:02 AM   #75
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damn, backwards clock society was the shit. loving this.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:19 PM   #76
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How is it that Freak keeps being mentioned as one of the good ones? It's trash.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:02 PM   #77
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Fuck you guys, Spangled is great.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:04 PM   #78
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Spangled's a tough one cos it's got both the worst & best qualities of anything Teargarden, when it really gets goin' it's not bad tho

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:06 PM   #79
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once you get past the awful clavinet circus balladry of the verses, really

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:14 PM   #80
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Alright but imagine if it was a Figure 8-era Elliott Smith song.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:24 PM   #81
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I am partial towards Lightning Strikes and Stitch in Time
Forgot about Stitch, another lovely tune.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:59 PM   #82
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Teargarden Theme tho ... shit is fucking wild... it's the best worst thing i've ever heard... brilliantly lost

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:08 PM   #83
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Teargarden tracks sound like music made by a man who has not enjoyed other's music in decades.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:06 PM   #84
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APOSTROPHE AFTER THE S


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Old 01-08-2019, 07:11 PM   #85
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My teargarden playlist goes:

1. Teargarden Theme
2. Stitch in Time
3. Lightning Strikes
4. Freak
5. Owata
6. Astral Planes
7. WWMM
8. The Fellowship
9. Tom Tom
10. Spangled
11. Cottonwood Symphony

I've listened to it 14 times according to the stats.

Like... Teargarden Theme sounds like classic Pumpkins. Elswhere the riffs and lyrics are solid and yet it all sounds like ass.
Owata is an abomination when it should be the highlight.

If only we could get '95 Billy to revisit his post-2003 catalogue.

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:29 PM   #86
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I think Tom Tom and Owata are just bad songs that sound bad in every incarnation

The Fellowship was fun live as an opener

Cottonwood Symphony is a pretty song despite the Alex Jonesian dumbassery feel like on Freak

there were better Clock Society songs like Make it Happen and When the Cocks Crow that even with bad takes in the studio would have made a 3rd TBK EP pretty good

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:34 PM   #87
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so so good, what could have been


 
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:36 PM   #88
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Teargarden tracks sound like music made by a man who has not enjoyed other's music in decades.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:36 PM   #89
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some of the bullshit that you all have written itt is so depressing I am quitting netphoria. please get your fucking heads checked

 
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it was that misplaced apostrophe that was the last straw, wasn't it?

 
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