Netphoria Message Board


Go Back   Netphoria Message Board > Smashing Pumpkins Boards > Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan Discussion
Register Netphoria's Amazon.com Link Members List Photo Album Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-2019, 10:32 PM   #31
FoolofaTook
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
FoolofaTook's Avatar
 
Posts: 30,301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johncg View Post
Definitely maybe

 
FoolofaTook is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:32 PM   #32
johncg
Apocalyptic Poster
 
johncg's Avatar
 
Location: Corgan drove here today in his white Cadillac Escalade.
Posts: 1,174
Default

I love Rocket but there are so many all-time classic SP singles that are better...

 
johncg is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:32 PM   #33
enthusaroo
Apocalyptic Poster
 
enthusaroo's Avatar
 
Location: ameriKKKa
Posts: 1,154
Default

I haven't heard of this song Disarm before.

Is it from Shiny and Bright (No Future. No God?)

 
enthusaroo is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:32 PM   #34
butthurt
Apocalyptic Poster
 
butthurt's Avatar
 
Location: on the internet
Posts: 1,633
Default

The years Byrne...

 
butthurt is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:32 PM   #35
johncg
Apocalyptic Poster
 
johncg's Avatar
 
Location: Corgan drove here today in his white Cadillac Escalade.
Posts: 1,174
Default

Like Tarantula

 
johncg is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:33 PM   #36
FoolofaTook
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
FoolofaTook's Avatar
 
Posts: 30,301
Default

sorry. rocket is pure psychedelic glory. that lead running through the whole thing. so effortless and so propulsive.

UGH

 
FoolofaTook is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:33 PM   #37
johncg
Apocalyptic Poster
 
johncg's Avatar
 
Location: Corgan drove here today in his white Cadillac Escalade.
Posts: 1,174
Default

Also I hope my Monte reference was clear and you guys don’t just think I can’t spell engulf

 
johncg is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:37 PM   #38
johncg
Apocalyptic Poster
 
johncg's Avatar
 
Location: Corgan drove here today in his white Cadillac Escalade.
Posts: 1,174
Default

I just can’t imagine a top five list with no BWBW, TT, Today, or Disarm. It just feels wrong to me. Like you ripped one of the gospels out of the Bible.

 
johncg is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:41 PM   #39
FoolofaTook
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
FoolofaTook's Avatar
 
Posts: 30,301
Default

I'd take Perfect over Today and BWBW

for real

 
FoolofaTook is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:43 PM   #40
johncg
Apocalyptic Poster
 
johncg's Avatar
 
Location: Corgan drove here today in his white Cadillac Escalade.
Posts: 1,174
Default

Bottom five singles:

Solara
G.L.O.W
Panopticon
One and All
The Celestials

 
johncg is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:57 PM   #41
Run To Me
Apocalyptic Poster
 
Run To Me's Avatar
 
Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf
Posts: 4,796
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoolofaTook View Post
why the fuck would i be trolling about rocket? rocket is one of the four untouchables on sd. soma mayo hummer and rocket. everything pales in comparison on that album.
Hmmm

Never thought of it like that

Add geek USA and i endorse your untouchable list

 
Run To Me is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 10:58 PM   #42
Run To Me
Apocalyptic Poster
 
Run To Me's Avatar
 
Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf
Posts: 4,796
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johncg View Post
I just canít imagine a top five list with no BWBW, TT, Today, or Disarm. It just feels wrong to me. Like you ripped one of the gospels out of the Bible.
Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?

 
Run To Me is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2019, 11:08 PM   #43
johncg
Apocalyptic Poster
 
johncg's Avatar
 
Location: Corgan drove here today in his white Cadillac Escalade.
Posts: 1,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Run To Me View Post
Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?
Rocket > BWBW

Iím just saying a top five list without ONE of those tunes blows my mind.

 
johncg is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 12:59 AM   #44
enthusaroo
Apocalyptic Poster
 
enthusaroo's Avatar
 
Location: ameriKKKa
Posts: 1,154
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Run To Me View Post
Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?
BWBW is just a watered down Solera

 
enthusaroo is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 01:07 AM   #45
Fonzie
Dute of Seven Y's
 
Fonzie's Avatar
 
Location: Mr. C's garage
Posts: 7,572
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoolofaTook View Post
rocket
33
siyl
1979
zero


thats top five
Cherub Rock
Tristessa (sub pop)
I Am One (12Ē)
Untitled
Stand Inside Your Love


Done.

 
Fonzie is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 01:59 AM   #46
bright_doom
Ownz
 
bright_doom's Avatar
 
Location: It requires an ability to judge distance
Posts: 777
Default

Tonight Tonight
Perfect
Disarm
Today
33

Done and dusted.

 
bright_doom is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 05:29 AM   #47
FoolofaTook
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
FoolofaTook's Avatar
 
Posts: 30,301
Default

ah tristessa is a good one.

and yeah it was hard not to in-clude tonite. that was the song that got me into the pumpkins.

perhaps i was a bit harsh on disarm. thinking back last night, i remembered listening to it for the first time. like someone said in this thread, i had never heard anything like it. quite a moving experience.

 
FoolofaTook is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 05:29 AM   #48
FoolofaTook
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
FoolofaTook's Avatar
 
Posts: 30,301
Default

cherub rock is another one that's hard not to includ-e

 
FoolofaTook is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 05:39 AM   #49
vixnix
Socialphobic
 
vixnix's Avatar
 
Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria
Posts: 11,904
Default

I started appreciating disarm when my general life trauma became unresolved childhood trauma

 
vixnix is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 06:25 AM   #50
eviltimeban
Ownz
 
eviltimeban's Avatar
 
Posts: 603
Default

How about Lily vs Slunk?

 
eviltimeban is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:26 AM   #51
fuzzyroes
Immortal
 
fuzzyroes's Avatar
 
Posts: 20,881
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johncg View Post
Disarm is not only one of Billy’s best songs, it’s one of the definitive alternative rock songs of the 90’s. It’s one of those songs that will be listed in a “1990’s late period alternative rock” chapter in a textbook about 20th century western popular music one day. The pain Billy expresses is so raw and real which makes it that much more of an achievement. As much I hate on Billy here, I have to say honestly he shows incredible resilience and courage in turning his pain into art in “Disarm.”
Amen brother. There's been this "current rock" feed that plays at my work since they switched it over from the Christmas music. It's all real new charting stuff with a super small selection of a few older classics and Disarm is one of the songs that comes on... SP is actually well represented. I hear Disarm every day and I've also heard Tonight Tonight and Landslide... The only other old songs I hear are a few by the Chili Peppers and Beck and Low from Cracker lol... Oh they also play Praise You by Fatboy Slim haha. That's literally it for 90's groups.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:31 AM   #52
fuzzyroes
Immortal
 
fuzzyroes's Avatar
 
Posts: 20,881
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoolofaTook View Post
why the fuck would i be trolling about rocket? rocket is one of the four untouchables on sd. soma mayo hummer and rocket. everything pales in comparison on that album.
How dare you leave out Geek USA.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:34 AM   #53
fuzzyroes
Immortal
 
fuzzyroes's Avatar
 
Posts: 20,881
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoolofaTook View Post
I've been listening to a lot of Oasis lately. Since I was digging Be Here Now, I dusted my Definitely Maybe CD off yesterday and was listening to that and damn, that's a damn fine album. It was one I was never really checked out in full and I picked it up in a thrift store haul years back and probably only listened to it twice, but it really clicks for me now. Liam really weaves his voice in awesomely with Noels guitar work. Sounds dope.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:34 AM   #54
reprise85
Wizard
 
reprise85's Avatar
 
Location: I'm surprised you guys are so big on rap, considering it's the most masochistic music of any genre.
Posts: 30,863
Default

Best 5 SP singles (as far as songcraft).

Tonight, Tonight
Disarm
Rocket
33
1979

tempted to put the everlasting gaze, but the excellent songwriting is overshadowed too much by the bad production choices and vocals. SIYL and rhinoceros are also honorable mentions.

 
reprise85 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:36 AM   #55
reprise85
Wizard
 
reprise85's Avatar
 
Location: I'm surprised you guys are so big on rap, considering it's the most masochistic music of any genre.
Posts: 30,863
Default

as far as untouchable SD songs:

hummer
rocket
soma
mayo
disarm
geek usa

like, those are unfuckwithable. tempted to put silverfuck and luna on there as well.

 
reprise85 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:36 AM   #56
fuzzyroes
Immortal
 
fuzzyroes's Avatar
 
Posts: 20,881
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Run To Me View Post
Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?
yer nuts. Bullet's definitely their best "rock" single.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:38 AM   #57
reprise85
Wizard
 
reprise85's Avatar
 
Location: I'm surprised you guys are so big on rap, considering it's the most masochistic music of any genre.
Posts: 30,863
Default

rocket has layers on layers on layers, it's phenomenal

BWBW is a great rock single but it doesn't stand the test of time

 
reprise85 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:39 AM   #58
fuzzyroes
Immortal
 
fuzzyroes's Avatar
 
Posts: 20,881
Default

Fuzzy's top 5 Smashing Pumpkins Singles:
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Disarm
Today
Zero
1979

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:41 AM   #59
fuzzyroes
Immortal
 
fuzzyroes's Avatar
 
Posts: 20,881
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reprise85 View Post
BWBW is a great rock single but it doesn't stand the test of time
It sure does. It was literally on the radio as I was driving home this morning and I cranked that shit up. Always hits the spot. The "what have you GOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT" part is literally a top 5 Corgan studio moment.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 09:55 AM   #60
Reyngel
Apocalyptic Poster
 
Location: Seattle
Posts: 3,462
Default

If you’re going to list “untouchables” for SD, keep it at top-3. Anything more, and you’re just typing out the track list because you can’t make a decision.

IMO, the 3 SD untouchables are:

Disarm
Soma
Geek USA

Mayonaise is a runner-up.

 
Reyngel is offline
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Google


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:31 PM.




Smashing Pumpkins, Alternative Music
& General Discussion Message Board and Forums
www.netphoria.org - Copyright © 1998-2019