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Old 05-13-2020, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default Shiny and Oh So Bright Bootleg Vinyl Fiasco

https://www.facebook.com/Nesimedia/










I buy hard to find metal vinyl releases from this company. I haven't been buying much lately with shipping being a complete wreck. I check in today and see this train wreck. This really is a small world.

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:53 PM   #2
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BOTTLEG ILLEGAL is pretty funny

Nice to see the band's official cyberwarrior is hunting those damn bottleggers down

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:56 PM   #3
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BOTTLEG ILLEGAL

BRING IT ON MOTHERFUCKER


what a buttcheek

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:58 PM   #4
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:59 PM   #5
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Who is the IG conversation between?

Is there any evidence that this company has been "harassing SP fans?" Or is that just Strawberry running interference for Corgan?

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:59 PM   #6
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i would never buy Shiny And Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun because every song on it is bad

and i don't have a record player

but i'd considering buying this because of furry corgan's reaction

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:00 PM   #7
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Is the part between asterisks a quote? Or are they just for emphasis?

Why is this all so confusing and hard to read?

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:06 PM   #8
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Is the part between asterisks a quote? Or are they just for emphasis?

Why is this all so confusing and hard to read?

the vinyl presser's posts are hard to read because english is not his first language

linda strawberry's posts are hard to read because... .. im not really sure, they just are

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:07 PM   #9
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Who is the IG conversation between?

Is there any evidence that this company has been "harassing SP fans?" Or is that just Strawberry running interference for Corgan?
She's just being the typical blow hard she always is and was owned by the rep from NESI Media. I've bought close to 200 albums from them and they're top notch. People (Sad Machine drones) are saying this company is shady, but the fact is they purchase licenses from record labels and make boutique quality vinyls. 100% legal.

This is the supposed harassment:

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:19 PM   #10
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Seems to be the internet-victim playbook.

Make public statements about another person or entity, and then call any response from that person or entity "harassment" so that the very act of defending their reputation or even asking for clarification/a dialogue is seen as a transgression.

Unless this company really did blow up her phone with dozens of messages, or threatened her, or something along those lines. But if they did… she's free to post the evidence.

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:38 PM   #11
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LS is El Corgo’s biggest sycophant, what a good little minion.

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:39 PM   #12
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LS is El Corgo’s biggest sycophant, what a good little minion.
Shes what Monte could never be and I know why.

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 07:11 PM   #13
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I think we all know why

 
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Old 05-13-2020, 10:29 PM   #14
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Old 05-13-2020, 10:58 PM   #15
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:33 PM   #16
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Bootilicious collectors vinyl... Japanese pressings are the best!

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:50 AM   #17
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BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
does this mean monty is working for them again?

your life is not your own
ethical stalking
jonathan micropenis monte
so you think your all that
montelds
crestfallen
sips of tea

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 03:21 AM   #18
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Looked up the sales total in Japan.

Looks like only 1 copy of the vinyl in question was ever sold.

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:15 AM   #19
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Still not sure if that is a bootleg or not. There's also a white+purple splatter version. Both of them are said to be limited editions (100 pressed only). It's listed on Discogs, do they list bootlegs?

https://www.discogs.com/The-Smashing...lease/14877479

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:43 AM   #20
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it's not a bootleg. why would it be a bootleg?

discogs lists bootlegs, but these are listed as "unofficial".

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:03 AM   #21
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also what kind of bottlegger would press a run of this album? I don't get bootlegs of officially released albums, especially if they're widely available

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:40 AM   #22
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I've seen bootlegs of released albums before. SD has a very popular German bootleg, for example.



Billy should name his next project Siamese Drama anyways.

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:49 AM   #23
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For those who are not so familiar with the matter:

- Nesimedia provided 2 LP versions "Shiny", each limited to 100 (numbered) - by the way in excellent quality

- all onlineshop copies sold out within a couple of days in march

- they bought a license from WARD (they have the official rights on the Asian market, got from napalmrecords)

- crazy sadmachines make the whole internet including Corgan and Strawberry crazy, which nesimedia accuse to press bootlegs

- the NESI owner defends himself in the Facebook post against the allegations of fraud by a sadmachine dream couple (Lucarelli and I forgot the name of his girlfriend), which have no proof, only Billy's IG posts

- Nesimedia is clarifying with napalmrecords what went wrong (if at all)

As I wrote in the other netphoria thread:

"Typical Billy ... without knowing anything exactly what went wrong (if any) between napalmrecords and the NESI label, the guy and the label are offended at first. Then all these sadmachines come to NESI's Facebook page, play kindergarten and assume fraud. I have already bought some LPs from NESI beforehand and it is a completely legal label and what has just happened is murder. When Billy says "motherfucker" all the sadmachines scream "motherfucker" twice as loud. When these people "solve" everyday problems ... poor humanity. I would end up laughing if napalm kicked Billy in the ass and said, "You were wrong, my friend."

Yes, and bootlegs are not allowed to sell on discogs. This is a legit release (as all NESI releases before).

Excuse my English, I'm not a native speaker.

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Old 05-14-2020, 10:39 AM   #25
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For those who are not so familiar with the matter:

- Nesimedia provided 2 LP versions "Shiny", each limited to 100 (numbered) - by the way in excellent quality

- all onlineshop copies sold out within a couple of days in march

- they bought a license from WARD (they have the official rights on the Asian market, got from napalmrecords)

- crazy sadmachines make the whole internet including Corgan and Strawberry crazy, which nesimedia accuse to press bootlegs

- the NESI owner defends himself in the Facebook post against the allegations of fraud by a sadmachine dream couple (Lucarelli and I forgot the name of his girlfriend), which have no proof, only Billy's IG posts

- Nesimedia is clarifying with napalmrecords what went wrong (if at all)

As I wrote in the other netphoria thread:

"Typical Billy ... without knowing anything exactly what went wrong (if any) between napalmrecords and the NESI label, the guy and the label are offended at first. Then all these sadmachines come to NESI's Facebook page, play kindergarten and assume fraud. I have already bought some LPs from NESI beforehand and it is a completely legal label and what has just happened is murder. When Billy says "motherfucker" all the sadmachines scream "motherfucker" twice as loud. When these people "solve" everyday problems ... poor humanity. I would end up laughing if napalm kicked Billy in the ass and said, "You were wrong, my friend."

Yes, and bootlegs are not allowed to sell on discogs. This is a legit release (as all NESI releases before).

Excuse my English, I'm not a native speaker.
Thanks for the summary

Your English is great, btw

You even spelled the highly tricky “bootleg” correctly, somehow

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 11:06 AM   #26
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lol block of the year

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 11:16 AM   #27
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I really want this NESI guy to own LS & Bill. Glorious.

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Isn't it possible that they could counter sue for liable? I mean he slandered their business on social media to 100k+ followers.

 
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lol block of the year
I thought I heard something weird. It was the sound of Billy's head literally exploding and leaving a mushroom-cloud explosion like in a cartoon.

I just imagine Corgan having a red telephone in his house which connects him directly to the FBI (similar to that red phone the police used to call Batman on the old television show). The FBI, after being legally obligated to listen to Corgan's complaints, then throw the report in the trash minutes later.

 
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Old 05-14-2020, 11:56 AM   #30
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Isn't it possible that they could counter sue for liable? I mean he slandered their business on social media to 100k+ followers.
bottleg ilegal vs. liable?

 
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