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Old 03-01-2020, 07:20 AM   #151
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For your reading list, reprise:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-laura-spinney

 
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Old 03-01-2020, 03:54 PM   #152
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i have about a month worth of emergency food in my apartment. If things get really bad I'll go to my girlfriend's. She has 6 months worth of food. We've agreed that if one of us gets sick we will stay apart and not put the other at risk.

I live less than a quarter mile from the white house. I have zero confidence in this government to help or save anyone. Especially people in The District. I suspect that when the outbreak hits DC the president will leave town and go somewhere where he'll be isolated from the general population and most of the staff of the White House. Like Putin's Dacha in the Crimea

 
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:00 PM   #153
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I am really only worried about my parents. My step dad is immunocompromised and has a heart condition, and my mother is 70 and diabetic.

Unusually it doesn't seem to be hitting children under 10 like some other viruses do.

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:59 AM   #154
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in 70 countries now

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:06 AM   #155
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I am really only worried about my parents. My step dad is immunocompromised and has a heart condition, and my mother is 70 and diabetic.

Unusually it doesn't seem to be hitting children under 10 like some other viruses do.
same, my dad is 72 with heart problems and my mom is 70, no current complications with her though.

it is interesting about under 10. my 100% guess is part of it is since no one has immunity, it's not disproportionately affecting people who haven't had enough time to gain some immunity. but i really have no idea.

i think our best gauge of mortality is diamond princess, which has had 3706 passengers, 691 positive and 6 deaths (so far). deaths will likely go up as people who still have it are probably more likely to be in bad condition. there was some quarantine control of transmission possibly. but also more older people for sure than general pop. but, with those caveats, about 5% got it and a bit less than 1% of that has died so far.

that would be around 120k-150k deaths in the usa if those numbers translated to the general population. which i'm not saying it will (though i think it's likely much more than 5% of the country will get it eventually). just for perspective

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:25 AM   #156
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I went to a dinner party tonight where one of the guests was saying that China created the germ because their government wanted to stop the US from importing bibles that didn't alter the name of Jesus. I only ate and drank what I brought to the party after that.
"Hey, Chen, grab one of the Bibles out of that crate and tell me what John 14:6 says."

"It readsÖ 'Doug E. Fresh saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.'"

"Let them in."

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:25 AM   #157
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The friend of that Jesus lady I mentioned is going full gas mask around the Grocery Outlet, and only buying frozen foods that he is removing from the packaging outside his home. Along with his clothes. Ya can't miss him!

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:32 AM   #158
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there were many canadians on the diamond princess, and what we heard is that the protocol followed was horribly sloppy and chaotic. many people had no access to masks or used improper masks. one person administering tests was infected.

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:36 AM   #159
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If South Korea’s numbers are fairly accurate, 3,100 cases and 17 deaths (so far) means a mortality rate of under 1%. More people could die, but at the same time there are probably cases where people are infected but the symptoms aren’t severe enough for them to seek medical attention to be officially diagnosed.

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Old 03-02-2020, 11:48 AM   #160
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tbh the virus doesn't stand a chance in s. korea. most of them are already fully immunized due to a steady diet of soju and kimchee. that virus made a critical error when it chose to hit the peninsula.

rip coronavirus.

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 12:56 PM   #161
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Except for the increasing number of infections, you're right

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:00 PM   #162
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If South Korea’s numbers are fairly accurate, 3,100 cases and 17 deaths (so far) means a mortality rate of under 1%. More people could die, but at the same time there are probably cases where people are infected but the symptoms aren’t severe enough for them to seek medical attention to be officially diagnosed.
I agree that's promising, but it's definitely premature. They're doing a good job testing, so we're 2-3 weeks behind on deaths if they're catching people before they are very sick. It's surely better to catch people at that point regardless, and it is awesome that it's under 1% and it would be Very Bad if it was higher. I'd trust that number way more than places with much a much higher mortality rate like Iran (4%) and... the USA, at this point (unclear but about 6/100 so about 6%). It's probably closer to 1 than 6, that's for sure. Italy is about 2.5%, Japan above 2%

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Old 03-02-2020, 05:06 PM   #163
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i'm sure you guys have heard... 4 new usa deaths and new cases in the NE, Florida, TX, Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska. Likely in all or most lower 48 states

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:04 PM   #164
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Are we doing a betting thing for First Netphorian Infection?

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:16 PM   #165
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wash your hands before posting here, plz

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:22 PM   #166
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You're one of those gig people, so you're fucked. Rest in piss, you Abel Tasman motherfucker.

Everybody that doesn't work in hospitality is shielded by their asociality.

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:25 PM   #167
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my wife's friend was over with her baby last night touching everything in our house and she called today to say they're both flu-like. headed to beer store now. need to do corona on corona

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 07:50 PM   #168
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we should all probably be washing our phones too. like, the outsides

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:03 PM   #169
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So, I guess experts are saying that it's very unlikely that this will be contained, and it will become an endemic disease just like the cold and flu.

A vaccine being available in a year's time is an optimistic projection.

I'm kind of curious as to how many people have died of the regular flu since the first known novel coronavirus infection. I understand that this new disease is about ten times deadlier than the flu, though hearing "this many thousands died in China, this many tens died in Italy," etc. would probably be put in perspective for me if I knew how many died of the flu in that same amount of time. Like, it's hard to tell where this will fall between a "it sucks because more people are going to be dying from a new disease, but for most of us, life will just kinda go on" thing, and a "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD, BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!" thing.

 
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Like, is this going to be on the scale of cancer deaths, where all of us know at least one person who has died of cancer? As far as I know, I've never personally known anybody who's died of the flu, so flu deaths are kind of a remote "I know it's a thing because I've read about it" problem in my mind, like dying of starvation or cholera.

 
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I agree that's promising, but it's definitely premature. They're doing a good job testing, so we're 2-3 weeks behind on deaths if they're catching people before they are very sick. It's surely better to catch people at that point regardless, and it is awesome that it's under 1% and it would be Very Bad if it was higher. I'd trust that number way more than places with much a much higher mortality rate like Iran (4%) and... the USA, at this point (unclear but about 6/100 so about 6%). It's probably closer to 1 than 6, that's for sure. Italy is about 2.5%, Japan above 2%
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Knowing that SK has had the most expansive testing, that puts the death incidence at 0.7%. Perhaps with early testing, the death toll has been much lower because of early diagnosis. They seem to be doing everything right.

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i'm sure you guys have heard... 4 new usa deaths and new cases in the NE, Florida, TX, Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska. Likely in all or most lower 48 states
Apparently it's most likely been spreading in the US for weeks already.

 
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:24 PM   #172
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Like, is this going to be on the scale of cancer deaths, where all of us know at least one person who has died of cancer? As far as I know, I've never personally known anybody who's died of the flu, so flu deaths are kind of a remote "I know it's a thing because I've read about it" problem in my mind, like dying of starvation or cholera.
definitely not out of the question

 
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Apparently it's most likely been spreading in the US for weeks already.
yeah, of course it has. i really don't understand why we weren't and still aren't testing

 
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Old 03-03-2020, 07:09 AM   #174
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Because it’s a liberal hoax designed to tank the Dow Jones!

 
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Old 03-03-2020, 07:12 AM   #175
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Just checking in. I figured everyone in this thread would be dead by now.

 
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No my life is being sustained by BIG HAND SANITIZER.

 
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Old 03-03-2020, 08:36 AM   #177
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we should all probably be washing our phones too. like, the outsides
A surprising amount of people don't know that you can both charge and sanitize your phone in the microwave

 
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Old 03-03-2020, 09:05 AM   #178
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No my life is being sustained by BIG HAND SANITIZER.
No one ever thinks to sanitize the little hand.

 
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Old 03-03-2020, 09:43 AM   #179
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Is that supposed to be a joke?

 
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Old 03-03-2020, 10:25 AM   #180
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No. Are you?

 
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