Setlist Los Angeles, CA, USA on October 5, 2011 - Page 2

darcy666 · 10-06-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pale_princess

good setlist by a bad cover band

And yet you're still here checking in on them. LOL

Bloody excellent setlist judging by the songs we know. Can't wait for the UK tour now, hopefully the core songs of this set will remain. The haters probably saw this setlist and got really angry that it's a decent selection of songs. They were really hoping for a bad setlist

brendo_91 · 10-06-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by T&T

i wish he'd drop the diezel amp rig though. doesn't sit right for me.

hasn't he been using bogners since 2007?

dustrock · 10-06-2011, 08:55 AM

Nice setlist - guess he was paying attention to the fan twitter requests

RenewRevive · 10-06-2011, 09:05 AM

setlist looks good, some really surprising stuff on there - especially from Gish and PI. nicely energised performance of Geek USA. the drumming sounds fine to me, but i'm no musician. billy's singing - well i hope this is what his delivery will be like on the album. is he using his fender signature guitar in this? sure looks like it. btw going off this clip he looks to have put quite a lot of weight on.

feeling upbeat about seeing them next month now.

paranoid · 10-06-2011, 09:07 AM

ugh. are some of you for real? that version of geek sounds terrible! total slops fest.

paranoid · 10-06-2011, 09:08 AM

and yes corgan is looking more plump than i've ever seen him.

MyOneAndOnly · 10-06-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by paranoid

ugh. are some of you for real? that version of geek sounds terrible! total slops fest.

Kind of hard to make a statement like that unless you were there or listening the official recording that they're selling after the show.

the youtube vids so far are pretty low quality recordings.

paranoid · 10-06-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Kind of hard to make a statement like that unless you were there or listening the official recording that they're selling after the show.

the youtube vids so far are pretty low quality recordings.

no, not hard at all. it's pretty obvious everyone is playing their 'parts,' not moving beyond the parts and struggling to do so. can mike play the parts correctly? minus a large handful of fuck ups, yes, but he displays zero groove here and it sucks the finesse right out of the song. same with jeff. just shredding a bunch of nonsense and it's a headache. bill? i really can't decide on what i think of his performance of the tune, but he doesn't have a strong enough band backing him up, and he needs that to play at his best.

like redbull said, this would have been an exciting set list to see in 2007 or 2008. now it doesn't really matter because it's being played by a band that's not fit enough for these tunes.

dean_r_koontz · 10-06-2011, 09:23 AM

go listen to rush or yngwie malmsteen then paranoid ya lil fag.

emotionalfriend · 10-06-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by paranoid

no, not hard at all. it's pretty obvious everyone is playing their 'parts,' not moving beyond the parts and struggling to do so. can mike play the parts correctly? minus a large handful of fuck ups, yes, but he displays zero groove here and it sucks the finesse right out of the song. same with jeff. just shredding a bunch of nonsense and it's a headache. bill? i really can't decide on what i think of his performance of the tune, but he doesn't have a strong enough band backing him up, and he needs that to play at his best.

like redbull said, this would have been an exciting set list to see in 2007 or 2008. now it doesn't really matter because it's being played by a band that's not fit enough for these tunes.

Gotta agree with this, and I'm not even one that dislikes Mike that much (I have no real opinion on him really). The whole performance of "Geek U.S.A." just seemed lifeless, much like all of the post-2007 output.

Nicole looked good, though. So at least they've got that going for them.

SlingeroGuitaro · 10-06-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by brendo_91

hasn't he been using bogners since 2007?

He used both Bogner and Diezel early 2007, and at some point during the touring that year dropped Bogner all together.

I have never liked the Diezel sound with the band.

Eulogy · 10-06-2011, 10:02 AM

ok so that setlist is fucking OUT OF CONTROL

byrne does ruin geek usa though.

Eulogy · 10-06-2011, 10:04 AM

i'm contemplating snagging a ticket for the 930 club if i can find one...

i remember when the tour was announced i was all "well if he put together some ridiculous setlist blahblah but he won't" and then he did

so

fuck. am i a hypocrite? maybe? but pissant and frail and bedazzled?

dustrock · 10-06-2011, 10:17 AM

What does the new stuff sound like?

pale_princess · 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

i'm contemplating snagging a ticket for the 930 club if i can find one...

i remember when the tour was announced i was all "well if he put together some ridiculous setlist blahblah but he won't" and then he did

so

fuck. am i a hypocrite? maybe? but pissant and frail and bedazzled?

you'd be a hypocrite if you forgot that you're giving money to a transphobic asshat.

Spira|_ · 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dustrock

What does the new stuff sound like?

.

StuckInVain · 10-06-2011, 10:24 AM

Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny?
I thought this performance was pretty good.

Eulogy · 10-06-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pale_princess

you'd be a hypocrite if you forgot that you're giving money to a transphobic asshat.

i'm sure a lot of my money goes a lot of places i don't want it to

but i mean

pissant!

someone needs to tell me if byrne fucked up the rest of the songs as badly as geek usa. because if that's the case i won't go.

soniclovenoize · 10-06-2011, 10:32 AM

Interesting setlist. I'd pay $20 for that show. Nothing more than that though.

Mike's a good drummer, just not the right drummer for Smashing Pumpkins. He played Geek USA, but robbed it of it's swagger and power. But that's not his fault; there's only one Jimmy Chamberlin. Matt Walker couldn't have done it better than Mike, and I don't even think Kenny could have done it like Jimmy.

Your guys' expectations are WAY too high. Christ.

Eulogy · 10-06-2011, 10:33 AM

no they're actually pretty low

i just don't want to go to a show if i'm going to hear hollowed out, soulless versions of the songs i like on that setlist

Sonic Johnny · 10-06-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by StuckInVain

Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny?
I thought this performance was pretty good.

No, Jimmy played everything a good 10 to 30 bpm faster live because he's a goddamn animal and that's how he rolls. Dude never, ever, played any note anything less than straight up brilliantly, live, in the studio or otherwise.

slunken · 10-06-2011, 10:43 AM

to be fair there are songs like Fuck You that I've only heard "work" like once (97 GM show).

Caine Walker · 10-06-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

i just don't want to go to a show if i'm going to hear hollowed out, soulless versions of the songs i like on that setlist

that is EXACTLY what will happen

bahnzah · 10-06-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

I've said this in jest a dozen times but now i've seen this I am dead serious:

I am a better drummer than this kid. I could pick up my phone now and call ten people who are better drummers. It's not a bad performance, sure, but he sounds like he's hanging on to that groove for dear life where jimmy was comfortably riding it like it wasn't even a thing.

yeah

paranoid · 10-06-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by StuckInVain

Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny?
I thought this performance was pretty good.

massive difference between tempo and timing.

paranoid · 10-06-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

someone needs to tell me if byrne fucked up the rest of the songs as badly as geek usa. because if that's the case i won't go.

what do you think?

jczeroman · 10-06-2011, 10:48 AM

I know for a fact that I am more excited about hearing this show than I am about hearing Oceania.

T&T · 10-06-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SlingeroGuitaro

He used both Bogner and Diezel early 2007, and at some point during the touring that year dropped Bogner all together.

I have never liked the Diezel sound with the band.

we should totally form a tone snob club and blast billy about this.
think the oBoard would tolerate a "we love you billy, but we hate the Diezel" campaign?

Eulogy · 10-06-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by paranoid

what do you think?

i dunno man

i think there was a version of ruby i heard from a while ago that was ok.

: /

i need to hear the whole thing before making a decision i guess.

pale_princess · 10-06-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Caine Walker

that is EXACTLY what will happen

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10-06-2011, 08:55 AM	#33
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,072	Nice setlist - guess he was paying attention to the fan twitter requests

10-06-2011, 09:05 AM	#34
RenewRevive Minion of Satan Location: Welcome to the real world jackass Posts: 5,056	setlist looks good, some really surprising stuff on there - especially from Gish and PI. nicely energised performance of Geek USA. the drumming sounds fine to me, but i'm no musician. billy's singing - well i hope this is what his delivery will be like on the album. is he using his fender signature guitar in this? sure looks like it. btw going off this clip he looks to have put quite a lot of weight on. feeling upbeat about seeing them next month now.

10-06-2011, 09:07 AM	#35
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	ugh. are some of you for real? that version of geek sounds terrible! total slops fest.

10-06-2011, 09:08 AM	#36
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	and yes corgan is looking more plump than i've ever seen him.

10-06-2011, 09:23 AM	#39
dean_r_koontz Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 12,652	go listen to rush or yngwie malmsteen then paranoid ya lil fag.

10-06-2011, 10:02 AM	#42
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,456	ok so that setlist is fucking OUT OF CONTROL byrne does ruin geek usa though.

10-06-2011, 10:04 AM	#43
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,456	i'm contemplating snagging a ticket for the 930 club if i can find one... i remember when the tour was announced i was all "well if he put together some ridiculous setlist blahblah but he won't" and then he did so fuck. am i a hypocrite? maybe? but pissant and frail and bedazzled?

10-06-2011, 10:17 AM	#44
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,072	What does the new stuff sound like?

10-06-2011, 10:24 AM	#47
StuckInVain Pledge Posts: 112	Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny? I thought this performance was pretty good.

10-06-2011, 10:32 AM	#49
soniclovenoize Minion of Satan Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,595	Interesting setlist. I'd pay $20 for that show. Nothing more than that though. Mike's a good drummer, just not the right drummer for Smashing Pumpkins. He played Geek USA, but robbed it of it's swagger and power. But that's not his fault; there's only one Jimmy Chamberlin. Matt Walker couldn't have done it better than Mike, and I don't even think Kenny could have done it like Jimmy. Your guys' expectations are WAY too high. Christ.

10-06-2011, 10:33 AM	#50
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,456	no they're actually pretty low i just don't want to go to a show if i'm going to hear hollowed out, soulless versions of the songs i like on that setlist

10-06-2011, 10:43 AM	#52
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	to be fair there are songs like Fuck You that I've only heard "work" like once (97 GM show).

10-06-2011, 10:48 AM	#57
jczeroman Registered User Location: In my house. Posts: 14,464	I know for a fact that I am more excited about hearing this show than I am about hearing Oceania.