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06-25-2019, 07:41 AM | #1 |
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Songs that use the octave finger pattern
This guitar fingering shape was probably billy's biggest contribution to guitar/songwriting. It's a nifty little trick and I don't see any other guitarists use it as much as billy does.
The beatles were known for using the major and the minor chord in the same song (think creep by radiohead). I have the idea that Nirvana deserves credit for using/abusing the 5 chord, where the major/minor status of a chord is truly undefined and the melody forces it's status to change at any moment. From a songwriting state that is pretty clever. I think billy tried to take it one reductive step further by making it simply an octave chord... but with a drone note the effect becomes something completely different. kudos to you billy. here's a short list of songs that make heavy use of this technique: Rhinoceros Tristessa Cherub Rock Hummer Geek U.S.A. Silverfuck Zero 1979 X.Y.U. |
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06-25-2019, 07:57 AM | #2 |
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Freak comes to my immediate mind
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06-25-2019, 07:58 AM | #3 |
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For Martha
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06-25-2019, 08:03 AM | #4 |
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East
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06-25-2019, 08:23 AM | #5 |
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Sun and East.
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06-25-2019, 08:27 AM | #6 |
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(come to my immediate mind)
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06-25-2019, 11:10 AM | #7 |
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LOL Billy's biggest contribution
you know he got this from Jazz guitarists in the 30s-40s right? |
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06-25-2019, 11:22 AM | #8 |
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How do you know Jazz musicians in the 30s and 40s didn't listen to that MEGALOTHONAL riff in porcelina thanks to a time machine?
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06-25-2019, 11:41 AM | #9 |
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06-26-2019, 06:37 AM | #10 |
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06-26-2019, 06:54 AM | #11 |
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Yeah this thread is amazing. How about octaves are ubiquitous with music, just like every other interval. Billy corgans Music is overloaded with perfect fifths. Did he contribute power chords or was it green day or the ramones? Also: Wes Montgomery’s octave game is miles beyond Billy’s. This thread sucks. Let’s talk about jimmy drumming, that’s impressive, not Billy’s half baked pseudosabbath/Hendrix riffage
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06-25-2019, 10:02 PM | #12 |
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Glynis
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06-25-2019, 10:32 PM | #13 |
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Mayonnaise
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06-25-2019, 10:42 PM | #14 |
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Porcelina, here is no why, chorus of tales of a scorched earth has some, etc.
Yeah Wes Montgomery was ripping off billy big time. As far as defining chords, depends on song, but he’s more defining tonality of a mode, like cherub rock it’s a riff on e mixolydian, silverfuck d mixolydian, etc. He also uses it a lot in guitar leads, there’s moments in geek USA, soma. That shiz all over Siamese dream |
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06-25-2019, 10:43 PM | #15 |
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Also where the fuck in for Martha is there an octave riff?
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06-25-2019, 10:45 PM | #16 |
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The guitar break down is mostly octaves, ya dult
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06-26-2019, 01:07 AM | #17 |
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06-26-2019, 06:34 AM | #18 |
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06-26-2019, 07:33 AM | #19 |
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07-02-2019, 11:31 PM | #20 |
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07-03-2019, 09:12 AM | #21 |
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07-03-2019, 09:16 AM | #22 |
real estate cowboy
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doh!
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06-26-2019, 01:08 AM | #23 |
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Lol at “mostly.” Like, NONE of them are octaves.
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06-26-2019, 01:09 AM | #24 |
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lol
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06-26-2019, 01:16 AM | #25 |
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E Mixolydian. D Mixolydian. Octaves. I have no idea what any of this means and it scares me.
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06-26-2019, 01:19 AM | #26 |
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I can’t be bothered to listen to freak but if memory serves right I don’t even think that has octaves?
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06-26-2019, 01:33 AM | #27 |
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Does that primary riff in inkless come from octaves? Friekin gorgeous riff
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06-26-2019, 01:48 AM | #28 |
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I think so but I’ll listen
Superchrist is another one. And United States. |
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06-26-2019, 06:36 AM | #29 |
real estate cowboy
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you dult (sic)
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06-26-2019, 07:10 AM | #30 |
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Yeah Billy sucks, he isn't even a good guitarist. I've wasted my life.
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