Darcy to reform Smashing Pumpkins with James Iha?

[TuralyonW3]

Originally posted by Corgan Rules



BS! Not true! I remember when we 1st had a problem. You said that I was wrong for feeling the way I did about the particular issue. I am usually not going crazy like I have been on here, but people have provoked me. I don't put up with BS and there is way too much of that on here. I have opinions just like everyone else and I can express how I feel.

Just say I am a retard because it's true....that's what I mean. It's BS like that. I know that we talk shit about each other now, but when I 1st started getting criticized about 5 months ago or earlier I would respond a thread and I would give my opinion. People then jump on amd say I don't know what I am talking about and call me stupid. It's not cool or fair because when I do the same thing back to you or whoever, then I then am an asshole. The main reason you all talk shit about me is because I disagree with the majority and I say what I feel. That is a horrible reason to make fun of someone. All that BS got me mad and now I have been firing back. You can't deny that there is a lot of negativity on this board. I don't like that and I have been trying to change it. I understand criticism, but making fun or being negative towards your favorite artist is just stupid. There is some good and bad that will go on with the artist, but when all is negative and bad....that's BS! You are one of those negative assholes that has been buggin me on here and western avenue for no damn reason at all. I post and I get ripped. Well... you know what....FUCK YOU if you are going to do that to me. You are not any better than me. If people keep doing it to me, then I will continue to fire back at them.

I am here because I like Billy and his music. You seem like you like Billy to a certain degree, but when someone says dumb negative stuff, you just jump on board the continue to make fun of that moment. My recommend for you if for you to think for yourself and stop jumping on bandwagons because it is fun.

[smashingjj]

yeah everyone who doesn't like almost everything billy has ever done can't be that much of a fan! fuck them, what are they doing here!!

first, this is NETPHORIA. it's a board of fans, most people who visit this forum are still huge fans of the smashing pumpkins. some are not though, and in general there's more room for criticizing things about the pumpkins. that's what i like about this place, and what i used to like about this particular board, before it got flooded with idiots ages ago. And then there's the small group of people who keep saying everything b0lly does is bad, either because they mean it, or to piss you off. well, they seem to succeed easily with that. but there has been a lot of love for the pumpkins and their spinoffs, by the older members as well as by the n00bs. it's just that, when you have 20 000 posts on a message board that (newsflash!) doesn't primarily seem to be about the pumpkins anymore (check the general board), you don't come back to this board, posting about what your favourite songs are from each album, or your least favourite, or comparing zwan to the pumpkins, or participating in survivor threads, time and time again, after you've been doing that since 2000 or before.

most of the more "established" Netphorians still attend this part of Phoria because they're bored, want to hear about Pumpkins/related news, or to have a laugh. well, that seems to be easy lately. there are some posters here that fail to see what entertains many people around here and take the bait. and you, Corgan Rules, you're the absolute king of those people. You're the undisputed caricature of a Corgan follower gone nuts. I want to thank you for the entertainment you bring in my dullest moments.

ps: in your reply, please ******* at least "AHOLES", "Whatever!", "FUCK YOU!" or "What are you doing here? Bye!". thanks in advance.

actually, if this is a troll, i've been punk'd, in a nice way though

[paranoid]

Corgan Rules, you keep stating the same things, twisting them, and then not backing them up at all... back yo shit up foo!

im done here. I've said my peace.

[smashingjj]

i'd like to add, you know why i initially posted negatively about TFE? because i'm really disappointed in Billy. Again. I'm disappointed, because a guy from a band that i love so much and has made so much fantastic music and has caused so many good moments in my life because of the music, has in my opinion lost all his talent. the following may be a bit rough on you, if you don't think you can take it, don't read it. I like a lot of other music and without wanting to sound arrogant, I think i've heard enough bands that do a similar thing that Billy has tried to, to decide for myself that B0lly's album sucks so much it's just funny. he's becoming one of those guys that should just stop making music. that's a very sad thing, and actually i think that's a reason why people are negative about your Lord and Saviour. people broaden their musical tastes further and further, make music an important part of their life, and just get to listen so many things from the past and from the present that it's easy to decide TFE sucks.

you just take it all so personally, you're acting like a muslim when someone insulted Mohamed the prophet. you're fantastic! (because really, billy isn't a prophet...!)

[neopryn]

hey corgan rules what other bands do you like besides the pumpkins. i've asked this question numerous times but you never answer me.
as the head of all the negativity here i think i deserve a dialogue with you.

[smashingjj]

Originally posted by neopryn
hey corgan rules what other bands do you like besides the pumpkins. i've asked this question numerous times but you never answer me.
as the head of all the negativity here i think i deserve a dialogue with you.

Netphoria Headquarters
------NEOPRYN------
Head of Negativity

[TriHell]

Listen, you can't shoot the stars... they're too high, and your bullet would come crashing back to the earth.

[TuralyonW3]

Haha, ok, all this back-and-forth has got me thinking:

There was a recent Billy quote, a TFE interview, in which Billy said (I'm paraphrasing) that he was disappointed with fan loyalty, that fans couldn't shell out 15 bucks every couple years to be loyal to an artist. Well, Corgan Rules is a HYPER loyal fan, and part of me can empathize where he's coming from, in regards to TFE haters and Billy bashers. Now, he has an extremely different communication style than most people here, but as he is said before, he is not here to make friends, he has real-world friends; here's here to speak his mind, and everybody continuing to bitch at him is not going to change the way he posts.
Blakethesnake and smashingjj, you seem like a cool guys, but you let him get under your skin WAY too much. You guys are all guilty of completely straying from whatever topic is on hand and devolving into personally attacking each other. Remember, it's JUST an internet chat board.

I realize nobody gives shit about what I say, but whatever. Netphoria is a badass place, it just gets pretty crazy sometimes.

[TriHell]

Corgan Rules is good times.

[neopryn]

Originally posted by TuralyonW3

I realize nobody gives shit about what I say

you're right. so shut up.

[TuralyonW3]

Originally posted by neopryn
you're right. so shut up.

Oh come on is that the best you've got.

Btw what did you think of Will Ferrell in Wedding Crashers?

[ChristHimself!]

Corgan rules, i think you should respond to neopryn immediately.

smashingjj, chill the fuck out, like i said, i really like mallow AND joeri, there was no need to go off like that about billy just cause i like tfe.













fuck you!!!!

[Shapan]

Originally posted by smashingjj
i'd like to add, you know why i initially posted negatively about TFE? because i'm really disappointed in Billy. Again. I'm disappointed, because a guy from a band that i love so much and has made so much fantastic music and has caused so many good moments in my life because of the music, has in my opinion lost all his talent. the following may be a bit rough on you, if you don't think you can take it, don't read it. I like a lot of other music and without wanting to sound arrogant, I think i've heard enough bands that do a similar thing that Billy has tried to, to decide for myself that B0lly's album sucks so much it's just funny. he's becoming one of those guys that should just stop making music. that's a very sad thing, and actually i think that's a reason why people are negative about your Lord and Saviour. people broaden their musical tastes further and further, make music an important part of their life, and just get to listen so many things from the past and from the present that it's easy to decide TFE sucks.

you just take it all so personally, you're acting like a muslim when someone insulted Mohamed the prophet. you're fantastic! (because really, billy isn't a prophet...!)

i think billy could still have it in him, but its true that this album just sucks. it might not even be just that, there have been moments in it where it sounds good, but billy's amazing music with the pumpkins has set the bar so high with my expectations for his music. billy's solo and pretty much all of zwan has fallen under this bar, so i dont bother myself with either of those albums. however, im giving billy chances because of the brilliant music he had with the pumpkins, and i think he could still make great music. in his solo stuff and with zwan he showed flashes of the billy that was, so i havent given up hope in him. i dont think i ever could, the pumpkins have been such a big part of my life with their great music.

just because i think the solo album sucks doesnt mean im not a billy fan. im still very supportive of him, i feel bad that this album sucks, but, at least to me, it fucking sucks. if he releases another solo album, ill listen to not hoping for the pumpkins, but just hoping for awesome music i expect from billy. even if i did expect pumpkins music, the pumpkins always changed so i wouldnt expect something like one of their previous albums, id just be open.

corgan rules is just disgustingly loyal. its nice to see such a positive corgan fan amongst all these guys that really do bash billy here and then, but sometimes he goes overboard. but thats funny. he shouldve changed his name to iha and wretzky suck for this thread. billy is a great songwriter and an awesome guitarist and i love his voice, but to say darcy and james suck and can be easily replaced isnt your say. you dont know shit, those 4 people created brilliant music, together. if jimmy didnt jump back on board and his presence was in doubt, you'd probably say fuck jimmy he can be replaced too.

the greatness of the pumpkins was in the 4 members. while billy was the frontman of the group, the other 3 members are also very important, dont downplay their roles. you don't know shit. you weren't with them in the studio or touring with them. james is a badass guitarist and darcy has a gorgeous voice. james also is the co-founder of the pumpkins, and billy said he couldnt continue the name of the pumpkins without the co-founder. (hopefully he has kept this in mind and has really reached out to james) billy still has an amazing admiration for james through all their quarrels, im sure you can squander at least a couple compliments about the guy here or there.

[ZEROpumpkins]

Topic should be closed.

[smashingjj]

Originally posted by ZEROpumpkins
Topic should be closed.

nah man, the fun is just starting

[ChristHimself!]

Originally posted by smashingjj
nah man, the fun is just starting

[smashingjj]

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds

could you just leave me alone and play your bagpipes along with TFE or something?

[ChristHimself!]

Originally posted by smashingjj
could you just leave me alone and play your bagpipes along with TFE or something?

You are so racialist

I already played my bagpipes on the p diddy remix of perfect.

[smashingjj]

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds


You are so racialist

I already played my bagpipes on the p diddy remix of perfect.

good. that's what you people are good at. leave the making of decisions to other people. (the english)

[ChristHimself!]

Originally posted by smashingjj
leave the making of decisions to other people. (the english)

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

that was low

2unlimited

[smashingjj]

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

that was low

2unlimited

hey 2unltd were our own belle and sebastian!!

[br191804]

Topic should be closed.

Yeah, Sorry I even started this thread. It's gone out of control.

[ChristHimself!]

Originally posted by smashingjj
hey 2unltd were our own belle and sebastian!!

no no

no no no no

no no no no

no no there's no lyrics

you know how much I love Anita Dels and Ray Slijngaard

[Quiet]

Originally posted by Corgan Rules

You can't deny that there is a lot of negativity on this board. I don't like that and I have been trying to change it.

There's your problem right there. I'd recommend either learning to live with the negativity (as most of us have) or find another board that's not as negative.

[Corgan Rules]

Originally posted by paranoid
Corgan Rules, you keep stating the same things, twisting them, and then not backing them up at all... back yo shit up foo!

im done here. I've said my peace.

I did back my shit up. I said you make assumptions and say I am not a huge pumpkins fan. I told you that you don't know shit and that you are wrong about that. Did you not read my last long post? I answer stuff and also back my shit up sucker. Stop asking me to retype everything and just use your eyes to read. It's all there.

I told you that Iha has done a few good things for the pumpkins, but I can count maybe 20 different times ina song or whatever that I can give him major credit for. Compared to Billy, Billy has had at least 200-300 of those moments. Get the picture? Iha is not on the same level as Billy. Of course he has to do something to keep him in the band. He is an order taker, except for a few rare moments. How can you not see this stuff.....fool?

[paranoid]

btw Corgan Rules, sure, maybe people have wronfully attacked you, but i didn't at first. I pointed out some things in my first post that I felt were wrong in your argument. Your response went on to call me an "Idiot" "You're Wrong" "Fuck You" "retard," etc. I didn't start off by calling you names, you started that game. I WAS FAIR AND NICE. Just because I post here doesn't make me one of the guys that started wailing on you 5 months ago. You were the one here that unfairly started to throw insults at me. I tried to reason with you and yo kept on, totally losing sight of what we were actually arguing about (basically becaue you knew deep down inside, I was right). With each post you failed to retort any of the points that I had made, and they were good ones. I'm not saying they are the incredible truth (like you state), but they were damn good points that you failed to see through. You just felt you were better off winning by calling e an all around asshole.

I played nice with you, you didn't with me because of other people. This is me, not them. fuck them. Me calling you a "non true fan" was a damn light hearted joke, but you took it too seriously. Obviously you are a huge fan, you spend a lot of your time rying to defend every damn thing BC does, no matter what. But you did not play nicely, and now I am pissed ff. I am not going to take shit from your childish mouth.. its BS.

so, again, go fuck yourself. I'll be fucking your mom in the earhole while your grandmother sucks on my balls, cunt rag.

[Corgan Rules]

Originally posted by smashingjj
i'd like to add, you know why i initially posted negatively about TFE? because i'm really disappointed in Billy. Again. I'm disappointed, because a guy from a band that i love so much and has made so much fantastic music and has caused so many good moments in my life because of the music, has in my opinion lost all his talent. the following may be a bit rough on you, if you don't think you can take it, don't read it. I like a lot of other music and without wanting to sound arrogant, I think i've heard enough bands that do a similar thing that Billy has tried to, to decide for myself that B0lly's album sucks so much it's just funny. he's becoming one of those guys that should just stop making music. that's a very sad thing, and actually i think that's a reason why people are negative about your Lord and Saviour. people broaden their musical tastes further and further, make music an important part of their life, and just get to listen so many things from the past and from the present that it's easy to decide TFE sucks.

you just take it all so personally, you're acting like a muslim when someone insulted Mohamed the prophet. you're fantastic! (because really, billy isn't a prophet...!)

That's your opinion...but it's ridiculous! You will be eating your words when he does make the album that kicks everyones ass. He has not lost his talent. He has gone into new directions. If he stayed in the same place year after year and made the same music, you would not be saying the same thing. It is just dumb when people like you make these stupid comments. It's like you think you are so important and know so much about music. Well, I do too damn it!

My opinion is just as good as yours. He has not lost his talents. If he wants to, he can go back and kick more ass at the music he used to. He is a musical genius. Geniuses don't settle for the same old shit. They want to try new stuff and enter new territory. I just don't think people realize how good Billy is and it's frustrating. He makes quality work everytime he makes a cd. Yeah, some might not be as good or different, but they are ALL quality. Do you not agree with that?

[paranoid]

Originally posted by Corgan Rules



I did back my shit up. I said you make assumptions and say I am not a huge pumpkins fan. I told you that you don't know shit and that you are wrong about that. Did you not read my last long post? I answer stuff and also back my shit up sucker. Stop asking me to retype everything and just use your eyes to read. It's all there.

I told you that Iha has done a few good things for the pumpkins, but I can count maybe 20 different times ina song or whatever that I can give him major credit for. Compared to Billy, Billy has had at least 200-300 of those moments. Get the picture? Iha is not on the same level as Billy. Of course he has to do something to keep him in the band. He is an order taker, except for a few rare moments. How can you not see this stuff.....fool?

Ok, so please, truly back your shit up now. Name off the songs right now where IHA can take credit. Don't just tell me Iha was a part of 20 moments and Billy was a part of 300. List 'em off. Iha was an order taker? How was he an order taker? Exactly what articles and blogs did you find these facts? List them off for me, back up your statements. For once, please prove me wrong. Help me see this "stuff."

[paranoid]

Originally posted by Corgan Rules



I did back my shit up. I said you make assumptions and say I am not a huge pumpkins fan. I told you that you don't know shit and that you are wrong about that. Did you not read my last long post? I answer stuff and also back my shit up sucker. Stop asking me to retype everything and just use your eyes to read. It's all there.

I told you that Iha has done a few good things for the pumpkins, but I can count maybe 20 different times ina song or whatever that I can give him major credit for. Compared to Billy, Billy has had at least 200-300 of those moments. Get the picture? Iha is not on the same level as Billy. Of course he has to do something to keep him in the band. He is an order taker, except for a few rare moments. How can you not see this stuff.....fool?

Ok, so please, truly back your shit up now. Name off the songs right now where IHA can take credit. Don't just tell me Iha was a part of 20 moments and Billy was a part of 300. List 'em off. Iha was an order taker? How was he an order taker? Exactly what articles and blogs did you find these facts? List them off for me, back up your statements. For once, please prove me wrong. Help me see this "stuff."

[paranoid]

Originally posted by Corgan Rules



I did back my shit up. I said you make assumptions and say I am not a huge pumpkins fan. I told you that you don't know shit and that you are wrong about that. Did you not read my last long post? I answer stuff and also back my shit up sucker. Stop asking me to retype everything and just use your eyes to read. It's all there.

I told you that Iha has done a few good things for the pumpkins, but I can count maybe 20 different times ina song or whatever that I can give him major credit for. Compared to Billy, Billy has had at least 200-300 of those moments. Get the picture? Iha is not on the same level as Billy. Of course he has to do something to keep him in the band. He is an order taker, except for a few rare moments. How can you not see this stuff.....fool?

Ok, so please, truly back your shit up now. Name off the songs right now where IHA can take credit. Don't just tell me Iha was a part of 20 moments and Billy was a part of 300. List 'em off. Iha was an order taker? How was he an order taker? Exactly what articles and blogs did you find these facts? List them off for me, back up your statements. For once, please prove me wrong. Help me see this "stuff."