Taylor Swiff quits spotify

[Trotskilicious]

really brave for a multi-millionare superstar recording artist, one of the few people that qualify as "monoculture" these days though i can't recall a single one of her songs ofc

anywho

really brave for her to want more money from spotify. i'm sure it will result in spotify paying everyone more, rather than just taylor swiff. so brave much guts wow

[Elphenor]

I think streaming services like Spotify are the best idea ever. Now instead of just downloading everything for free off the internet and nobody getting paid anything, I can pay a low monthly fee and get access to most of the music I listen to in one place. Plus you get artist radio and recommendations and the ability to share your music with friends easily.

This is the way music should be bought in the modern age. And this really should be the solution to the music industries problems.

But of course artists aren't getting a fair cut of the profits

[Elphenor]

The real problem is that Spotify has so little competition right now. They have more subscribers than the next like 4 or 5 streaming services combined

[Trotskilicious]

i think they should charge me more and pay more royalties to the people i listen to

but here's a tiny fucking violin for taylor swiff pullin a lars ulrich

[TuralyonW3]

spotify sucks

[Trotskilicious]

nah iz u

[Trotskilicious]

i'm sorry that not all of us are engineers or whatever who can afford to buy massive records and comics collections

[null123]

I miss that era of kanye

[The Omega Concern]

Pandora founder's Hidden Dragon estate fires up West Marin opposition



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[Order 66]

doubt its really swiff that makes that call though. p sure she could care less

shake it off is the wors thing i ever heard.. that rap or whatever at the end.

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

I think streaming services like Spotify are the best idea ever. Now instead of just downloading everything for free off the internet and nobody getting paid anything, I can pay a low monthly fee and get access to most of the music I listen to in one place. Plus you get artist radio and recommendations and the ability to share your music with friends easily.

This is the way music should be bought in the modern age. And this really should be the solution to the music industries problems.

But of course artists aren't getting a fair cut of the profits

Yeah no, spotify pays artists fuck all money. Bandcamp is the only solution that is beneficial for both artists and listeners. You are doing better for bands by buying two albums a month off bandcamp at $5 each with the artists seeing $4.90 of that then spending $10/month on spotify with every artist you listen to that month seeing between like 0.2 and 9 cents each.

Don't be fooled: it's better than piracy but it isn't good enough to be a solution for artists.

[butthurt]

He writes that Swift herself was on track to pull in $6 million this year for her own catalogue “before she pulled her catalog.”

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/11/tay...ceo-daniel-ek/

SHE RAGE QUIT!!!!@@!@@!##

[Elphenor]

I generally try to buy new albums from indie artists from Band camp

But it's like I'm not buying albums that are 10+ years old which is where most of the music I listen to comes from

[Trotskilicious]

if i want to buy your music then i'm going to get a hard copy.

[Trotskilicious]

i still don't see what the problem is with making it harder to do/paying them less

to be perfectly frank

i'd much rather have middle class be the top end of the musician career. seems to be what people are being big babies about. also the fact that they can't make it a career. oh boo hoo wah wah

[Elphenor]

Ideally artists should be able to carve out a living out of just playing live shows and selling merc.

I just don't like these musicians who just make music in their basement and put it up on band camp and are constantly trying to link people to it.

Actually recording your music should come after you've built up a market for it with your live performance. But idk, am I sounding Dad Rock?

[Elphenor]

It's pretty interesting to me

Like I think most good bands didn't set out to be huge, they just wanted to make enough to eat and not have to get a real job which is like the dream. But then we turned them into these big symbols of escape from our own lives

[Shallowed]

Trots do you think it's fair for artists to get a micropercentage of what their record label and advertisers get for each song of theirs that gets played, no matter which artist it is and how rich they already are?

[Trotskilicious]

no

[Trotskilicious]

i'm still going to use spotify though

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

no

That's alright then.

Did anyone make a thread for Radiohead when they did this?

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

if i want to buy your music then i'm going to get a hard copy.

i'll pay for a digital copy if it's not priced like they had to spend on the same production cost they had on a cd

this is the advantage itunes seemed to take on people who can't seem to figure that fairly obvious factor out

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

That's alright then.

Did anyone make a thread for Radiohead when they did this?

they're on spotify

[Trotskilicious]

i see the real problem as being that consumer capital ain't what it used to be

yeah, internet is sucking money and opportunity away from creatives. to some extent being able to make money off of it in any way is remarkable and i feel like it's a lot of bourgoise whining, to the other it is limiting opportunity and exposure on the other hand it broadens exposure and the market. it's got a lot of ins and a lot of outs. Lot of strands in the ol' duder's head

but still, consumers don't have as much money anymore either

whole thing is fucked

[Sonic Johnny]

Don't get me wrong, I know we're never going back to the 80s thing where a band with enough chops could fill arenas and do coke all day everyday and set fire to money, and I don't want it to be that way. BUT as a musician I think it's pretty reasonable, if lots and lots of people are hearing and enjoying your music, for your to get some money back for all the hard work you've put in, especially now that it's possible for the consumer to pay significantly less for an album and you as an artist to still see a comparable amount of money to what you would have made prior to digital music distribution.

Bandcamp allows that to happen - it benefits both parties significantly. Spotify and other services like it benefit only the consumer, leaving many independent artists making the kinds of royalty cheques they would have made under an oppressive major-label contract, with a significant slice of the pie going to the retailer, just like we had under the old system.

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

they're on spotify

Oh, I thought they pulled their music, turns out I remembered it wrong and they're just highly critical of it. More critical than Taylor Swift is, by the sounds of things.

[Trotskilicious]

but yet still on spotify

[Shallowed]

Atoms for Peace isn't though.

[Trotskilicious]

that's a huge loss

[Trotskilicious]

I will also mention that betters pottyfi than youtube

i mean it's like trying to put the genie back in the bottle only thing we can hope for is responsible consumers so lol good luck. i like how taylor swiff sold the albumbs before quitting spotify. i mean the world is not enough is it Mrs. Lars Ulrich (I MEAN SERIOUSLY U GUYS)