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Old 04-18-2010, 11:48 AM   #91
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Best thing about all of it is that it's caused me to go back and listen to Gish for the first time in a couple years. Jesus Christ, what a breathtaking album. All of the rockers (I am One, Siva, Bury Me, Tristessa, Snail) are filled with so many amazing moments... Fuck

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:54 AM   #92
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are you guys fucking kidding? the drumming is a mess!
For example >>> check out the bridge during "Bullet With Butterfly Wings".
It's almost falling apart. His timing is also a little off sometimes.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:29 PM   #93
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It sounded better than expected but goddammit I just can't take that kid seriously. He just doesn't look right back there. I'm all for giving everyone a fair chance but he just seems to create unintentional laughter. oh well whatever bill.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #94
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lol listen to yourself for one moment.
i don't understand. please civilly explain whatever issue you're taking with this.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:26 PM   #95
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here, since most of us are jacking off over you tube videos, here's tristessa '92 so you guys can realize the fucking difference. this new band sucks balls.


 
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:55 PM   #96
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here, since most of us are jacking off over you tube videos, here's tristessa '92 so you guys can realize the fucking difference. this new band sucks balls.

Actually, Billy is wearing a dress and pearls in this video. If he did that now, he'd never hear the end of it. So, fashion-wise, there's a huge improvement that's happened since 18 years ago.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:00 PM   #97
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here, since most of us are jacking off over you tube videos, here's tristessa '92 so you guys can realize the fucking difference. this new band sucks balls.
Jimmy is essential to the band's sound. There's no way around it.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:03 PM   #98
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Jimmy is essential to the band's sound. There's no way around it.
See Pug/Daphne Descends live circa 1998.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:38 PM   #99
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what's your point? those performances of pug/daphne still kick the living shit out of what we're seeing here in 2010.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:55 PM   #100
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i guess ultimately, though, people are only going to give a fuck about the music from the past. no one here is talking about the performances of songs for a son (the only new song posted on you tube), astral, widow, stitch, that's the way, GLOW (yet to have postings on you tube). we only care about how loudly billy screamed during bullet and how a 20 year old can play jimmy chamberlin's drum parts some what correctly.

billy probably realized this is the best way to get people to talk about him and back tracked on his promise of not playing old tunes.

btw there that new song 'baby'.. which i actually like.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:30 PM   #101
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concerning all the discussion about byrne:

there's no denying that he can perform some solid rock 'n roll drumming. he's better than the douches in bands like staind & limp bizkit and the like.

he's just no Jimmy Chamberlin. but really, who is?

kind of reminds me when matt cameron replaced jack irons in pearl jam...played the old songs with a "looser" style.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:45 PM   #102
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so now we're using that old sill debate of 'well at least it's not as bad as the crap out there now like limp bizkit and staind!' eesh.

btw i'd be thrilled to see matt cameron playing with SP.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:02 PM   #103
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What's the point paranoid? The old SP is never coming back. It sucks I know, but get over it and move forward. You should be pleased that at a minimum SP3 or whatever you want to call it can still rock out with the back catalog. Plus there will still be the occasional good song that comes out from teargarden. I can understand and participate in bashing retarded shit like widow make my mind or wrestling commercials or firing Jimmy. Repeating the same old gripes when there is a sign of improvement and movement in the right direction is unnecessary though. Oh fuck I'm sorry I even bothered to type this much but I might as well just post it at this point

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:09 PM   #104
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i love it. 'paranoid, you must move on from the past!! listen to how awesomely they played bullet with butterfly wings! we got 90's billy back!'

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:25 PM   #105
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The band sounds good. Mike is okay but he will never be like Jimmy, Jimmy is just a beast. It's good to see Billy enjoying playing SP songs again, it seems like he needed the 1 1/2 year away from the tunes to start appreciating them again. However, it looks like there will not be a tour after all or at least not until later in the year.

By the way, it sounds like he changed the lyrics in siyl. What is he saying at the end of the clip? "who wouldn't be the one you ?" (it's supposed to be "love" but it sounds like "starve").

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 07:37 PM   #106
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New Song

Teargarden Theme

Download 01 Teargarden Theme.m4a from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:23 PM   #107
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I don't see what the problem is. When they do something good they should be applauded, when they do something retarded they should get ripped on. It's not a complicated pattern...
It's just about being a two faced phony. And this thread really puts those people into the spot light. I bet the people who chose "No" in the previous pole that they aren't going to the upcoming Pumpkins concerts probably are. You either like something or you don't.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:30 PM   #108
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here, since most of us are jacking off over you tube videos, here's tristessa '92 so you guys can realize the fucking difference. this new band sucks balls.

Everyone knows The Smashing Pumpkins really got good when Billy Corgan shaved his head.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:33 PM   #109
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My girlfriend grabbed the setlist for me. yay souvenirs.

a song for a son
tristessa
astral planes
today
soot and stars
GLOW
widow wake my mind
stand inside your love
that's the way
bullet
(encores) -uke song-
ava adore
i've been waiting for you

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:41 PM   #110
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My girlfriend grabbed the setlist for me. yay souvenirs.

a song for a son
tristessa
astral planes
today
soot and stars
GLOW
widow wake my mind
stand inside your love
that's the way
bullet
(encores) -uke song-
ava adore
i've been waiting for you
So when did he play Stumbleine?

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:21 PM   #111
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stitch in time and stumbleine were solo acoustic at the start of the show, so I'm guessing the non-Billy setlists didn't bother including those songs to avoid confusion

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:22 PM   #112
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they also didn't play the last song

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:28 PM   #113
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i love it. 'paranoid, you must move on from the past!! listen to how awesomely they played bullet with butterfly wings! we got 90's billy
back!'
i would love to jizz all over your face you little fuck

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:28 PM   #114
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how come it doesn't have stumbleine? maybe your girlfriend is trying to trick you!

edit: too slow

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:33 PM   #115
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i've been waiting for you? as in neil young? that would have been cool.

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:43 PM   #116
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GLOW (Alternate)

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:47 PM   #117
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''FUCK COACHELLA!"

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:57 PM   #118
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uhhhh more of that wherever it came from

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:26 PM   #119
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i've been waiting for you? as in neil young? that would have been cool.
maybe monte caught the soundcheck version

 
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:36 PM   #120
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maybe monte caught the soundcheck version
He did. It was the Neil Young song from what I could tell from the lyrics.

 
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