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Old 02-03-2019, 08:41 PM   #31
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Take Me Down is boring. It's always struck me as a bad way to close out an awesome firft disk. The Bells or Believe would've been way better.

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Old 02-03-2019, 09:03 PM   #32
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ORDINALS ARE SPELLED OUT: FIRST SECOND THIRD ETC

 
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:53 PM   #33
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:01 PM   #34
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I always wondered why Billy and Jeff never played the Blew Away solo live the way it’s played on the album. The solo is the best part of the song, but they always butcher it to be some meandering random confusion. It’s a pretty standard, intentional string of notes—seems pretty doable. Maybe James should take on the solo if they ever play it live again.

That said, Take Me Down is really great, and a genius first-disc closer. It totally sounds like a lead-in to an intermission before the anger rock picks back up on Disc 2.

 
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:06 PM   #35
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Also, the remastered Take Me Down for the reissue actually has some noticeable, great improvements.

 
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:09 PM   #36
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All the James songs are great. Go is his best SP song, Falling is his best solo song.

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:19 AM   #37
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Take Me Down is boring. It's always struck me as a bad way to close out an awesome firft disk. The Bells or Believe would've been way better.
i feel like anything else, even if it was still a James song, would have been exhausting in that track placement

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 05:21 AM   #38
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Old 02-04-2019, 10:53 AM   #39
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I think what ruins Take Me Down is how weak Iha's voice sounds. It sounds like a BC first take when he sings "soothe and heal" and "on the other side dear." In Go, his vocals sounds much more confident.

Anyways, at risk of an FBI investigation, can anyone share Billy's trashing of Take me down in the MCIS liner notes? I assume this is from the re-release? I am sure these only cast both BC and JI in a good light.

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Old 02-04-2019, 06:11 PM   #40
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MCIS is an Alice in Wonderland journey and Take Me Down sets us up to go through the looking glass. No other song works as album closer.

I have to agree with the masses that Go and Blew Away are his best songs. James may not be a beast like Billy, but he has lots of subtle artistic sensibility.

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:55 PM   #41
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MCIS is an Alice in Wonderland journey and Take Me Down sets us up to go through the looking glass. No other song works as album closer.

I have to agree with the masses that Go and Blew Away are his best songs. James may not be a beast like Billy, but he has lots of subtle artistic sensibility.
"the masses"? is that us?

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:02 PM   #42
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Yeah, like, the other people in the thread. I'm not taking myself very seriously. You shouldn't either.

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:27 PM   #43
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Yeah, like, the other people in the thread. I'm not taking myself very seriously. You shouldn't either.
that hurts. and not like regular hurt. like a really really really deep hurt.

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:29 PM   #44
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Take Me Down has atmosphere and a pretty good melody. But that wooshy, trippy sound about it is very cool.

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:29 PM   #45
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that hurts. and not like regular hurt. like a really really really deep hurt.

like a deep dad hurt?

 
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:32 PM   #46
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like a deep dad hurt?
deeper, but thanks for asking. at least someone here takes me seriously

 
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:37 PM   #47
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His solo work is not the best, unintentionally saving it for the Pumpkins. It would be interesting to hear him even attempt to pull off an album like TFE...oh wait, there's Look to the Sky??

 
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