Gish vs. Adore

[FoolofaTook]

Well?

[Mals Marola]

Adore's the better album but Gish is more fun to listen to

[Modern90's]

i like both but gish would be my hill to die on

[Mals Marola]

I've been enjoying live Adore shit more than the actual album recently

fuckin' Kissed Alive Too, that's where it's at

[Modern90's]

adore is great and all but, personally i have to be in a certain mood to listen to most of that album.

[Mals Marola]

Adore has more moods going for it than people seem to give it credit for
Most of which I would say were "wistful"

[butthurt]

I need a track by track comparison.

[Skradgee]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

Well?

Well, herp a deeee derp.

[New Art Rioter]

Acid drenched psych solos any day

[redbreegull]

Gish is easier and more fun to listen to, but for the most part it's much less developed than any other SP1 album. Adore is the peak of Billy's songcraft

[FoolofaTook]

the last four songs are very impressive. shame-nitemare-martha-blank page. like you said, strong songwriting.

[johncg]

The songwriting is way better on Adore but I just find Gish way more “alive” sounding. On Adore I feel like I can physically hear Billy painstakingly obsessing over how every second of every song sounds and what everyone’s public perception of him is. It just sounds like he’s lost in a sea of his own emotional baggage without the benefit of his trademark loud/soft dynamics, his incredible guitar playing, Jimmy’s drumming, or an actual producer to anchor him. I don’t know. It’s just not my vibe. But I dig it. And I respect Billy for putting himself in the difficult position of starting from zero without any of his aesthetic languaging to lean back on or a familiar approach to working.

[NovaFritz]

Adore is just meaningful on an entirely different level. Outside of Suffer and Snail Gish doesn’t do much for me.

[panda show]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

the last four songs are very impressive. shame-nitemare-martha-blank page. like you said, strong songwriting.

100% agree, but I still pick gish over adore.

[redbreegull]

they are hard to compare because Bill's outlook as an artist on Gish vs. Adore is day and night. Gish is a naïve 25 year old on a fuck ton of drugs doing insane guitar solos and singing LSD fueled platitudes of self-empowerment, ready to take on the world. Adore is a grim and seasoned 33 year old man already "past his prime" and on the ropes against deep personal loss, huge public pressure, and a disintegrating band while coping by taking MDMA in a hot tub every night

[FoolofaTook]

damn that sounds like a great way to cope

[FoolofaTook]

also suffer has some of the most godawful b0lli vocals ever

[FoolofaTook]

also just want to point out that all three mods have voted for adore

[pale_princess]

Gish. Adore is full of filler.

[FoolofaTook]

thanks a lot for nothing!

[johncg]

Originally Posted by pale_princess

Gish. Adore is full of filler.

This is why we are bffs. Thank u next.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Adore Gish

[pale_princess]

Originally Posted by johncg

This is why we are bffs. Thank u next.

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

also suffer has some of the most godawful b0lli vocals ever

this is a random but, more importantly, wrong & ridiculous statement

sounds like '98 Billy isn't the only one doing MDMA in a hot tub!

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

they are hard to compare because Bill's outlook as an artist on Gish vs. Adore is day and night. Gish is a naïve 25 year old on a fuck ton of drugs doing insane guitar solos and singing LSD fueled platitudes of self-empowerment, ready to take on the world. Adore is a grim and seasoned 33 year old man already "past his prime" and on the ropes against deep personal loss, huge public pressure, and a disintegrating band while coping by taking MDMA in a hot tub every night

Christ, they were only that young when they recorded Gish?

When I remember how young most notable people where when they did notable things, it really reminds me of how little I've accomplished in that same amount of time, and cements how I'll never accomplish anything consequential in my life.

Like, if I were ever going to be an accomplished scientist, a proficient musician, an interesting artist, a good writer, or anything like that… I'd already be one.

[johncg]

That’s right loser. Welcome to netphoria.

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Disco King

When I remember how young most notable people where when they did notable things, it really reminds me of how little I've accomplished in that same amount of time, and cements how I'll never accomplish anything consequential in my life.

Like, if I were ever going to be an accomplished scientist, a proficient musician, an interesting artist, a good writer, or anything like that… I'd already be one.

Tolstoy was 58 when he wrote The Death of Ivan Ilyich.

[FoolofaTook]

Conrad was 42 when he wrote Heart of Darkness.

[FoolofaTook]

Dickens was 48 when he wrote Great Expectations.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Christ, they were only that young when they recorded Gish?

When I remember how young most notable people where when they did notable things, it really reminds me of how little I've accomplished in that same amount of time, and cements how I'll never accomplish anything consequential in my life.

Like, if I were ever going to be an accomplished scientist, a proficient musician, an interesting artist, a good writer, or anything like that… I'd already be one.

aren't you my age

you got one more year man, 25 is it, after that nothing you do matters