Pick 2 feasible bands that you'd like to see open the oldies tour

[KissesandNoise]

yes and yes

[LaBelle]

jimi hendrix and janis joplin

[FoolofaTook]

Kisses and noise

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

Kisses and noise

\m/ faaawwwwk yeah \m/ dvv-dvv-dvv dvv-dvv-dvv Fockin' good one Tooky

[KissesandNoise]

Kisses will be there, but Noise wasn't extended an offer and will remain on his farm in Michigan

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

Hole opening lol

Hole with D'arcy on bass

[slayed23]

Deftones would be amazing.

[Skradgee]

Originally Posted by slayed23

Deftones would be amazing.

the only band I follow as closely as SP

[ninsp]

Collective Soul would be perfect.

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Skradgee

the only band I follow as closely as SP

HAVE YOU HERD OF BORIS

[houseofglass11]

Originally Posted by ninsp

Collective Soul would be perfect.

Yep, remember this time they kinda pwned Billy?

"Smashing Young Man"

Beggar's description
Of what I've been missing
Exploit your position
Don't think I didn't listen
Hey I hope you're feeling
A little better now

Success is so tragic
Pain is your gadget
Your tongue's just lashing
Just bitching by habit
Hey I hope you're feeling
A little purer now
Hey I hope you're feeling
Securer now

Help me I plea
I don't understand
Your ways and means
You smashing young man
Help me to see
The good you have planned
You're wearing thin
You smashing young man

You preach synthetic-like
Peace is an oversight
It's nothing to ignite
Your self-lit spotlight
Hey I hope you're feeling
A little special now
Hey I want to tell you
I think you're special now

I don't recall asking for guidance
I don't recall wanting to
I don't recall bowing before you
But I'm so impressed
With the kindness in your attitude

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

HAVE YOU HERD OF BORIS

Boris is fucking insane. I almost threw him/them out jokingly as an avant-garde doom noise rock act wouldn't sell more tickets, but then I thought, "shit, that would actually be one of the coolest things ever"

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Yep, remember this time they kinda pwned Billy?

"Smashing Young Man"

I did not know that. I've never heard the "billy was a dick to Collective Soul story" but I'm sure he was.

[smashingjj]

the Beatles

[soniclovenoize]

Originally Posted by KissesandNoise

I did not know that. I've never heard the "billy was a dick to Collective Soul story" but I'm sure he was.

iirc he called them out for being a Smashing Pumpkins rip off band. Specifically, Shine sounds a lot like Drown or Rhinoceros.

https://youtu.be/ikCmsszCY1A

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize

iirc he called them out for being a Smashing Pumpkins rip off band. Specifically, Shine sounds a lot like Drown or Rhinoceros.

https://youtu.be/ikCmsszCY1A

Hahahaha - oh it totally does. Back in the day I always thought Collective Soul was in the camp of influenced by SP where something like Hum was a more blatant ripoff

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

the Beatles

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by Corgan's Bluff

when was this? when did they start playing this song?

i was kind of in awe of that performance by Kenny and then this one showed up among the related videos



and holy fucking shit he sweeps the floor with the Kenny performance which was fucking awesome already as it was

I mean this song is the perfect showcase for jimmy

[FoolofaTook]

i taught you didn't like machina two?

[smashingjj]

I don't but the drumming is insane

Song is just a vehicle for Jimmy to destroy

[FoolofaTook]

yes. also bsbt (HEAVY)

[FoolofaTook]

i swear they were on meth. or some kind of amphetamines.

[myosis]

Originally Posted by KissesandNoise

Hahahaha - oh it totally does. Back in the day I always thought Collective Soul was in the camp of influenced by SP where something like Hum was a more blatant ripoff

"The Poster Children (and other bands from the same downstate scene, like Hum) were an obvious and direct influence on the Smashing Pumpkins' sound."
-steve albini

[soniclovenoize]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

when was this? when did they start playing this song?

At that show, Halloween '98. That's the only performance with Kenny though. Although an Adore outtake, they must have earmarked it for the next record, because iirc it was the first thing they rehearsed when Jimmy rejoined, and then it was on the set for The Arising tour. Everyone already knew it because Corgan had been namedropping it as the "hit single he wouldn't allow on Adore because of his artistic integrity" and that performance on Halloween.

[soniclovenoize]

Originally Posted by myosis

"The Poster Children (and other bands from the same downstate scene, like Hum) were an obvious and direct influence on the Smashing Pumpkins' sound."
-steve albini

I love Steve but this is wrong. When Hum began, they were much heavier and didn't share much similarity with SP. Their first album Fillet Show is almost post-hardcore. They didn't start doing the spacerock thing till You'd Prefer an Astronaut, which came out two years after Siamese.

[themadcaplaughs]

Originally Posted by KissesandNoise

Oh no. Was there an SP/Placebo beef that I don't know about? SP is my band because they are a more bombastic version of Jane's and Placebo - hard rocking alt bands that have a penchant for guitar heroics but tempered by a new wave Cure type of thing. I think those would be bad ass opening bands, in an arena setting, but nearly impossible. Otherwise Royal Blood or Manchester Orchestra

You'd have to look it up, but there are multiple interviews were the front guy of Placebo (sorry, I do not know anything about them) discusses it. Placebo opened for SP in 1995/96. He said that, on the tour, Billy acted like a Zeppelin-style rock star: opening bands and crew weren't allowed to talk to him, no one could address him when he watched the opening bands perform, etc. After playing their set one night, Placebo dude saw Corgan walking around backstage surrounded by fans. Placebo dude, who was incredibly drunk, ran up to Corgan and asked if his songwriting improved after shaving his head. Palcebo dude said he loved Smashing Pumpkins, and this was supposed to be a little joke about Billy shaving his head. Billy apparently interpreted it as Placebo dude did not like Corgan's songs.

Placebo dude said their manager called the next morning and said, "I don't know what you did to piss off Smashing Pumpkins, but they kicked you off the tour." Since then Corgan has tweeted a few negative things about the band. You can hear him talk about Placebo here:

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

You'd have to look it up, but there are multiple interviews were the front guy of Placebo (sorry, I do not know anything about them) discusses it. Placebo opened for SP in 1995/96. He said that, on the tour, Billy acted like a Zeppelin-style rock star: opening bands and crew weren't allowed to talk to him, no one could address him when he watched the opening bands perform, etc. After playing their set one night, Placebo dude saw Corgan walking around backstage surrounded by fans. Placebo dude, who was incredibly drunk, ran up to Corgan and asked if his songwriting improved after shaving his head. Palcebo dude said he loved Smashing Pumpkins, and this was supposed to be a little joke about Billy shaving his head. Billy apparently interpreted it as Placebo dude did not like Corgan's songs.

Placebo dude said their manager called the next morning and said, "I don't know what you did to piss off Smashing Pumpkins, but they kicked you off the tour." Since then Corgan has tweeted a few negative things about the band. You can hear him talk about Placebo here:

Brian Malko is the dude. Wow. SP is a furious band. Let the music do the talking. Why be a shithead to another great band? Placebo is really, really good and a musical cousin to SP. Malko is a really good guitarist with an interesting approach and distinct vocal. You'd really think Billy would find kinship there

- Oh, after watching the interview, it was Stephen the bass player/ rhythm guitarist that appeared to have the run in because they are joking about it

[MplsTaper]

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

I don't but the drumming is insane

Song is just a vehicle for Jimmy to destroy

I'm sure you've heard both versions. One is like the Leno performance and the other has Jimmy ripping up the ride at the beginning instead of that beat. It's like a jazzier take but still pummeling

[smashingjj]

Ok?