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10-31-2018, 03:27 PM | #31 |
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Thank you for telling me how I should feel about lyrics in a thread titled "lyrics that make you cringe"
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10-31-2018, 03:37 PM | #32 |
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They lyrics are not supposed to be interesting, nor are they supposed to speak to anyone else's point of view. Those are just your expectations. I've always treated the lyrics as a I imagine Billy does, just words that vaguely fit the feel of the music, which may or may not be self consistent.
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10-31-2018, 03:47 PM | #33 |
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10-31-2018, 04:02 PM | #34 |
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The bridge in Night Mare is one of the best parts of the song. Also pretty clear that he’s talking about God in that section. The song is about loss and grief.
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10-31-2018, 05:53 PM | #35 |
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10-31-2018, 05:58 PM | #36 |
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10-31-2018, 06:01 PM | #37 |
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10-31-2018, 06:04 PM | #38 |
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get a load of this guy!
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10-31-2018, 06:04 PM | #39 |
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In a world where "One in a Millon" by Guns n Roses exists, 1 can only get so worked up about abstract Billy Corgan lyrics from the mid-90s
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10-31-2018, 06:08 PM | #40 |
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I don't really get criticizing Tales of Scorched Earth considering it's as self-depricating as it is going after anyone else
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10-31-2018, 06:08 PM | #41 |
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Then again I guess that's just what people do these days innit
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10-31-2018, 06:18 PM | #42 | |
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She didn't wanna be, she didn't wanna know She couldn't run away 'cause she was crazy She gave it all away, she saw her baby break And in the air it hung that she was dull razors "B*tc*s be crazy, amirite?!" And I said, I wanna fill you up, I wanna break you, I wanna give you up From one another, another one should come to one another No one should come between us Still I was lonely, and she was by my side, my one and only Knows that she could never hide I couldn't feel her, and it was just a game 'Cause I was lonely and she was crazy "But the crazier the chick, the better the sex, amirite?! Ugh, she's so hot but she makes me SO ANGRY. Physically. Not that I actually have feelings for this person. Not at all. I swear!" Rat-tat-tat, ka boom boom, now take that, and just a bit of this 'Cause I'm a watcher, and I'm a doer of none Come to save you, 'cause you're all mine "Just to reinforce the point, I wish to hurt this woman but at the same time I want to own her." I hurt where I can't feel, I feel where I can't hurt I know where I can't know, I bleed for me and mine Ka-boom, a rat-tat-tat, and some good ole bliss 'Cause I'm a sister, and I'm a motherfuck I am made of shamrocks, I am made of stern stuff I am never enough, I am the forgotten child "Feel sorry for me not that terrible woman!" And I said I wanna fill you up, I wanna break you, I wanna give you up From one another, no one should ever come In between us, between us and our love "I hate this woman, but also I'm the only one who can ever have her" Mary had a little lamb, her face was white as snow And everywhere that Mary went I was sure to go Now Mary's got a problem, and Mary's not a stupid girl Mary's got some deep shit, and Mary does not forget And this is how Mary's garden grows, and this is how Mary has her ghosts "We were both so pure and innocent until this woman RUINED IT!!!1" And into the eyes of the jackal I say ka-boom Now we begin descent, to where we've never been There is no going back, this wasn't meant to last This is a hell on earth, we are meant to serve And she will never learn She will never learn Bye bye, baby goodbye, bye, bye "Good riddance, evil woman. Continue about your evil ways." |
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10-31-2018, 06:21 PM | #43 |
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To sum it up: xyu is about an immature man-baby using violent language to slut shame a woman he wants desperately
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10-31-2018, 06:23 PM | #44 |
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We should just pretend that people who think those thoughts don't exist.
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10-31-2018, 06:33 PM | #45 |
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10-31-2018, 06:35 PM | #46 |
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It can very well have that effect. The implication is that the song shouldn't exists as it does, because it's misogynistic. The word itself implies condemnation of whatever it's applied to, it's derogatory towards it's subject. You wouldn't say something is both misogynistic and justified in its existence at the same time.
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10-31-2018, 06:40 PM | #47 |
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well she's free to dislike it for that reason, no? maybe you should ask if that's the implication instead of assuming it.
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10-31-2018, 06:41 PM | #48 |
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10-31-2018, 06:43 PM | #49 |
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mind pointing me to that exact quote?
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10-31-2018, 06:48 PM | #50 | |
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but i don't think billy included it on the album because he thinks the behavior in the song is just fine and dandy. it's showing his fucked up tendencies, forcing himself to look at it, by making all of us look at it. does that make sense? it's like when you have fucked up depressed thoughts and your therapist has you write them down in a journal or whatever and then read them outloud to him/her. once someone else sees it it has another effect, and sometimes exposure is the only way to get that. now whether it's healthy to do that through double albums as a huge rock star vs. an intimate friend or psychologist etc... well, it's billy corgan |
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10-31-2018, 07:21 PM | #51 | |
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10-31-2018, 07:35 PM | #52 |
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I am offended by Coldplay. Very.
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10-31-2018, 07:37 PM | #53 |
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10-31-2018, 07:44 PM | #54 | |
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10-31-2018, 07:46 PM | #55 |
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XYU is clearly about Courtney.
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10-31-2018, 07:48 PM | #56 |
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how do you figure that?
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11-01-2018, 01:47 AM | #57 | |
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when I was a teenager, I felt like "wow, I can so relate because this boy used me. this must be what it's like when there's actual sex involved." at the age I am now, it's like, "wow 20-something Billy grow tf up and let the woman live" lol Unfortunately, with Billy being who Billy has been for the past decade and the fans following suit with altright/Trumper/chemtrails tendencies... I could see them thinking it's okay to talk/think about women like this |
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11-01-2018, 01:50 AM | #58 | |
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11-01-2018, 02:50 AM | #59 |
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11-01-2018, 05:22 AM | #60 |
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I think you're projecting, pale_princess
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