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Old 03-20-2009, 08:20 PM   #61
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didn't jimmy also say that he just recently moved back to chicago and that they had built pumpkinland 2.0? none of this makes any sense.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:21 PM   #62
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finally some sanity in SP2. Congratulations Jim.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:22 PM   #63
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:23 PM   #64
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maybe was getting buff so all the veins would be popping out and he could shoot up easier

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:24 PM   #65
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just logged on... total shock. really, this is a shock. last thing i would have expected to hear concerning this band. the details are at a bare minimum... perhaps this is not permanent?

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:26 PM   #66
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some people on the oboard think it's an april fools joke.

it's march 20th.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:26 PM   #67
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As much as I hate this, I think it will be good for Jimmy. He is the oldest member of the band. He deserves to retire and spend time with his family. I'm hoping that's all this is. If it was something Billy did I will never pay for his music again...

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:28 PM   #68
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As much as I hate this, I think it will be good for Jimmy. He is the oldest member of the band. He deserves to retire and spend time with his family. I'm hoping that's all this is. If it was something Billy did I will never pay for his music again...
all the more reason why we need DETAILS.

I mean what kind of press release is that, really. there's nothing to it.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:30 PM   #69
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RIP SP2 (2007-2009)

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:32 PM   #70
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the fact that billy plans to keep calling this the smashing pumpkins is totally pathetic. just fucking sick

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:33 PM   #71
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what is this going to be, sp8? i've lost count.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:34 PM   #72
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If this split wasn't amicable, I wonder if Billy will bury Jimmy in his press statements like he buried James, D'arcy, and the rest of Zwan.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:37 PM   #73
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that would be sad

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:38 PM   #74
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If this split wasn't amicable, I wonder if Billy will bury Jimmy in his press statements like he buried James, D'arcy, and the rest of Zwan.
You just reposted the same thing you posted on the Oboard. Why?

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:38 PM   #75
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The one person the band couldn't afford to lose.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:39 PM   #76
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why cant billy just call it quits and do future embrace part 2, it was even better than shitgeist

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:40 PM   #77
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You just reposted the same thing you posted on the Oboard. Why?
Maybe you should be asking yourself: Why the fuck you are on the Oboard?

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:43 PM   #78
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For the lulz

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:45 PM   #79
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It just makes me sad.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:47 PM   #80
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You just reposted the same thing you posted on the Oboard. Why?
Too see how quick the mods would delete it for being "negative."

and for the lulz

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:53 PM   #81
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The one person the band couldn't afford to lose.
true, true, so true

billy should kill the sp name immediately and just do stuff in the vein of TFE. you cannot replace chamberlin. they tried that already and the only reason why it didn't look utterly pathetic is the simple fact that adore did not require a drummer like chamberlin. anything else smashing pumpkins does.

i really hope he just puts the band on indefinite hiatus, even if he gets all emotional and calls it a break up again. give jimmy his space, let him do solo stuff for a few years, then get together in the future whenever you want to again.

i have always defended sp almost blindly, but it's starting to get really sad. what pissed me off was billy selling today to VISA. there's no integrity in that, and for billy to talk about for, what, over two decades now about how important it is to be an artist with integrity and stuff, he goes off and does stuff like that? seriously? let's not forget about the stuff preceding it, like cashing in on guitar hero, the multiple versions of zeitgeist, etc. etc. he does not practice what he preaches. ever since billy found "god" he's been increasingly inconsistent.

i think billy needs to take a step back and take a good hard look at himself. if he is the reason chamberlin left, what a shame that is, they have accomplished so much on stage lately. it's depressing to see that go away. while sp album production values have been lackluster since 2000 or so, the live show was always what solidified this band as something really unique. now...

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Old 03-20-2009, 08:56 PM   #82
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I am so fucking hurt right now...i just got the news



i think this is going to be a really hard next couple of days for me

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:57 PM   #83
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true, true, so true

billy should kill the sp name immediately and just do stuff in the vein of TFE. you cannot replace chamberlin. they tried that already and the only reason why it didn't look utterly pathetic is the simple fact that adore did not require a drummer like chamberlin. anything else smashing pumpkins does.

i really hope he just puts the band on indefinite hiatus, even if he gets all emotional and calls it a break up again. give jimmy his space, let him do solo stuff for a few years, then get together in the future whenever you want to again.


what he said. but before that happens just give us fans all the stuff in the archives. we deserve that. like a goodbye gift

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Old 03-20-2009, 09:01 PM   #84
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i hope they edit jimmy out of all the archive stuff.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:09 PM   #85
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what is this going to be, sp8? i've lost count.
close. it'll be sp6.

billy james drum machine = sp1
billy jimmy darcy james = sp2
billy darcy james = sp3
billy jimmy melissa james = sp4
billy jimmy jeff ginger = sp5
billy + random people = sp6

this is awesome.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:09 PM   #86
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what he said. but before that happens just give us fans all the stuff in the archives. we deserve that. like a goodbye gift
the band just needs to end. billy's going to look ridiculous on stage with ginger, jeff, lisa, but no jimmy.

"SP2" for as much hate as it gets made perfect sense because it had the two most talented members of the band intact which, honestly, is all you need for the band to be "Smashing Pumpkins". people here don't like to read that, but it's true. but if you take away jimmy, forget about it.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:10 PM   #87
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If you are a drummer you better get your butt to Chicago or LA or where ever Billy is! This is your chance!

WHO KNOWS WHO MIGHT GO NEXT!
There are some black kids with buckets playing on streets during the summer. Some of them have some skill. I'll tell them to call Bill up.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:12 PM   #88
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Holy crap! Best of luck to you Jimmy!

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:12 PM   #89
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maybe this was brewing for a while and it was just a closely guarded secret? maybe this also helps explain billy's strange apology letter. maybe this is why billy was so insistent that he was never going to play the old catalogue again, maybe that's why they did the 20th anniversary shows, a kind of farewell. billy certainly didn't look broken up in those pictures with sasha.

 
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:15 PM   #90
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I bet Pakula was giving him a cut of the ad money, and now that revenue stream has gone JC has decided to get the fuck out.

 
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