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Old 06-24-2017, 05:42 PM   #3001
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I love Ghost World. It seems like it's going to be another teen movie about the cynical sarcastic misfit underdog who you're supposed to root for because her character and integrity make her a better person than all the "plastic popular kids" or whatever, but then it deconstructs that trope by showing how much it would actually stunt one's development to hide one's insecurities behind those sorts of shields. It's a nice depiction of that aspect of growing up where you just kind of drift away from longtime friends you thought you'd know forever because your lives start diverging at that transitional point. Johansson's character emotionally matures from her "teen angst" stage, leaving Birch's character behind.

It's a great adaptation of the comic. It's one of those adaptations where you don't resent the changes made from the source material, because they are good in their own right, and now you have two different enjoyable stories, rather than one good story told in two media.

Speaking of comic-book adaptations that make a lot of changes to the source material that end up working for the film-- I just saw Wonder Woman, and damn, I wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did. Especially when every other DCEU film so far has been shit. And the fact that the movie has so many credited writers that you know it went through 167 rewrites and suspect it was written by committee.

The film doesn't feel like that at all. It feels like a much more singular vision than any of the Snyder DCEU films, which don't really seem to understand cohesive narrative and think that a series of slick-looking sequences makes for a good movie. Every scene is actually doing some work in contributing to the themes and the arc, and there's no dumb Hawkman cameo that's only there to advertise the next film. Snyder's fingerprints can be seen in the fight choreography (which is one of the few things he does competently) and the colour grading, but everything else is so different that you know this was Jenkin's baby, unlike those cookie-cutter Marvel Studios films, in which the directors and screenwriters are more like Subway "sandwich artists" than anything.

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I liked how the film played with the idea that the world isn't so simple that killing the bad guy will make every problem go away, but I also feel that it then it undercuts that by having Wonder Woman kill Aries, after which World War I goes away. Would have served the theme better if the war continued, leaving us with the thought that even though the world wasn't saved, something good was accomplished, and in the real world, that's the best one can hope for. Kind of that "you can't save all the starfish" parable. Would have also been worthwhile to hint at the fact that the sanctions the Allies imposed on Germany after the war weren't exactly a positive thing.

Though this isn't the most realistic war movie, it did portray it a lot more earnestly than you'd expect from the genre, touching on the horrors of modern war (mustard gas being central to the plot), imagery of war injury, PTSD, and civilian casualties. I was expecting that this was going to be a riff off of that Captain America movie, but it was far superior. I was hopeful that using WWI instead of WWII would make the conflict less clear-cut, and not a case of "Allied Heroes vs. Nazi Villains." But even though they tried to do that a little bit, in the end, it pretty much was "Allied Heroes vs. German Villains."

Doctor Poison is a villain that I've always thought has a very interesting look and premise, but she's not actually in very many interesting stories in the comics. This film's interpretation of her was great, though. Even though she was a secondary villain, she was far more terrifying than the main one.

The changes to the Wonder Woman lore also suited the film. The whole thing about "Aries killing the gods because he hates mankind and Wonder Woman being created as a weapon against him" isn't quite how it is in the comics, but it works better in this film than a more faithful origin would. I'm all for faithfulness to the source material, but the number one goal is to make a good movie. And if the movie is better served by playing loose with some of the mythology, go right ahead, I say.

Even though I love superhero comics, very few superhero films are what I'd think of as "good films." Something like Iron Man, it's certainly not a bad film and it's a satisfying watch, but it's nothing to write home about. Something like Man of Steel is just a bad film. But Wonder Woman joins Nolan's first two Batman films, Spider-Man 2, and the Donner Superman movies as films that I'd say aren't just "good superhero films," but "good films."

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Old 06-24-2017, 05:45 PM   #3002
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I love legos. My first lego set was this robin hood hideout. it had a secret door and a brown horse with a red saddle. most of the merry men were archers but there was one dude with a spear and another with a pitchfork.

the lego movies blows. i would rather regain scabies than watch that shit.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 07:02 PM   #3003
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the lego movies blows. i would rather regain scabies than watch that shit.
This guy gets it.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:04 PM   #3004
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Yeah. Get a load of him.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:07 PM   #3005
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All I've seen were some tv commercials when I was in jail or some other hell where I was forced to watch television. and those lego movies looked like the lowest trash.

I'm about to watch the tale of princess kaguya. watched it fucked up on dxm years ago so i remember nothing besides an impression of senesence.

fuck lego movies.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:18 PM   #3006
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Did you like moana, took?

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:21 PM   #3007
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Yeah! It was great. I was gushing on here back when I saw it. When she finds the proa! And when her grandma comes back as the spirit manta ray... holy crap!

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:22 PM   #3008
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Yes! Loved it.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:22 PM   #3009
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That and frozen and the one with the bunny and the fox, disney is back on track finally.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:23 PM   #3010
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Why is lit from underneath water so appealing? What's behind this trope?

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:25 PM   #3011
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It is an eldritch echo of the primeval void whence we came and whither we shall return

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Old 06-24-2017, 10:26 PM   #3012
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Took-specific recommendations:
- A Field in England
- Valhalla Rising
- A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence
- Jodorowsky's Dune
The power of ChristJesus compels you.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:28 PM   #3013
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It is an eldritch echo of the primeval void whence we came and whither we shall return

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Haha sure but I was created in a lab and use hydrocarbons in my body in lieu of water based blood

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:28 PM   #3014
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Ok. Will download. I trust you.

Tried to watch Lynch's Dune. Worst Lynch film I've ever seen by far. When it got to the Harkonnens I was all like oh hell no fuck this shit.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:28 PM   #3015
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Liquid methane and all that. I'm very cool to the touch

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:29 PM   #3016
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@took let's trade our life savings and go see Hamilton on weed

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:31 PM   #3017
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Haha sure but I was created in a lab and use hydrocarbons in my body in lieu of water based blood
That lab and those hydrocarbons: once were void and someday shall be void again. we carry the seeds of eternal darkness within us, as does all.

abbath doom occulta has written a number of black metal apocalypses on this self-same topic.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:33 PM   #3018
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@took let's trade our life savings and go see Hamilton on weed
Ok. But we will have to trade your life savings since I have no life and no savings. I do have weed tho.

What's hamilton? I don't get out much.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:35 PM   #3019
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The broadway show and work that Lin Manuel Miranda is most well known for after moana

 
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Really hard and expensive to see. Used to be even more so but is now nearly $500 for the cheapest

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:38 PM   #3021
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Wow. That sounds good. I've only been to one professional play in my life but it was Midsummer's Night's Dream at the Globe so I'll live.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:39 PM   #3022
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What else has that dude done? Any other stuff like Moana?

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:41 PM   #3023
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Btw for all you film buffs: watch the woman in the dunes.

 
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:43 PM   #3024
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Suna no Onna

 
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What else has that dude done? Any other stuff like Moana?
I couldnt name any of the top of my head.

 
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Old 06-25-2017, 11:21 AM   #3026
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Shut In - 2/5
The glacial pace really does this film in, it does have maybe two interesting plot points it squanders by being so slow and boring. Naomi Watts pulls off a single smart pro move but the bad guy doesn't fall for it making it an entirely pointless scene.
You do get a couple glimpses at Watts' nipples, so it's not an entirely wasted affair.

What We Do In The Shadows - 5/5
I laughed the whole way through, it's so good. Also so accurate to vampire life. It's great seeing my kind portrayed this way with no prejudice or romantic spin to it. True to unlife.

 
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Old 06-25-2017, 11:25 AM   #3027
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Yeah! The second one is a great movie.

 
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Old 06-25-2017, 01:55 PM   #3028
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The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Mäki
pretty good and light-hearted. liked the black and white a lot.

 
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:48 AM   #3030
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i just found out a Baywatch movie was recently released

what a sad, sad age we live in

 
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