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Old 12-01-2014, 12:16 AM   #31
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Doriun, run, sun, done.

Brilliant.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:24 AM   #32
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I mean, it isn't terrible, but shit. It has no substance whatsoever. At least TFE had some songs with SOME interesting lyrics, like CameraEye and Now and Then. I mean he isn't even trying to say anything with meaning.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:06 AM   #33
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I didn't even finish it....the music is good but these fucking lyrics are just too lacking

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:28 AM   #34
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Damn shame. I was expecting something good from this one from the album sampler, didn't realize I'd already heard the whole fucking track.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 03:13 AM   #35
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Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian. Dorian.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:02 AM   #36
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Fucking hell - what the fuck is this fucking shit? I couldn't even finish it. Music whatever - bit Neverending Story once again but those lyrics? Jesus.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 05:22 AM   #37
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This ones great! I really love the atmospheric vibe of it. I think it's the kind of track that'll sound a ton better when it's not heard with the shitty you tube quality.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 06:17 AM   #38
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Old 12-01-2014, 06:58 AM   #39
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??? which one was the great one?

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:03 AM   #40
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why does bill have to self sabotage himself with being cynical about lyrics

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:03 AM   #41
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no, I meant that about Dorian, it's the 2nd post that I went on to delete

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:06 AM   #42
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why does bill have to self sabotage himself with being cynical about lyrics
Yeah, despite my enjoyment of the new music, It really doesn't seem like Corgan has much to say anymore.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:08 AM   #43
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I don't even know who his intended audience is supposed to be with these kind of lyrics

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:14 AM   #44
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I don't think there is one. I think they're only meant to be used in a musically pleasing way rather than having any deep, lyrical significance.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:38 AM   #45
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they're so insipid i think he's doing it on purpose as some kind of swipe at the industry, i dunno

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:45 AM   #46
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Yeah, the lyrics in Anti-hero and Being Beige among others could definitely be seen that way.

Yet again, these are songs from the man who brought us Widow Wake My Mind.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:33 AM   #47
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the repetition is a play for radio. and it's completely cynical and wrongheaded, but what can you do.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:58 AM   #48
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from what i gather this album is sort of a tribute to 80s rock... i'd rather him be blase about the lyrics here than shoehorn some heady handed lyricism in like adore or machina. i don't think he really has anything to "say" with this one

though his lyrics have become completely unrelatable over the years, generally speaking

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:11 AM   #49
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I just remembered that there's a song called Dorian by Danish singer Agnes Obel...better song and better lyrics...

"..They won't know who we are
So we both can pretend
It's written on the mountains
A line that never ends

As the devil spoke we spilled out on the floor
And the pieces broke and the people wanted more
And the rugged wheel is turning another round

Dorian, carry on,
Will you come along to the end
Will you ever let us carry on

Swaying like the children,
Singled out for praise
The inside out on the open,
With the straightest face

As the sad-eyed woman spoke we missed our chance,
The final dying joke caught in our hands
And the rugged wheel is turning another round

Dorian, carry on,
Will you come along to the end
Will you ever let us carry on
Dorian will you follow us down.."



 
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:19 AM   #50
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I don't know what the angst is. Corgan wanted to make a pop album. He made a damn good one from what I can tell. Has he ever made an unabashed pop album like this one before?

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:31 AM   #51
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The thing about pop is the melodies have to actually be enjoyable to listen to

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:33 AM   #52
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And if you're playing pop you're making the lyrics that much more important

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM   #53
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I will be skipping this track every single time.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:27 PM   #54
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This is pretty common probably
I kinda have that sorta. A little. I think we at least all have this syndrome to some extent. Or most of us. i think it is more pronounced now surely because of the age we live in. Like a syndrome like this was probably a lot rarer a 100 years back and more cause most people had other shit to do than think about their appearance and wernet constantly bombarded with images of young fit looking celebs. Or even not so young ones that still look young because they can spend their time and money making sure they do

As for the song, well its like a lot of the stuff on this record i hear so far, the music starts and i like it enough...than Bolly starts singing and i'm like...oh...meh. I feel the same about Run2me.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:46 PM   #55
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And if you're playing pop you're making the lyrics that much more important
isn't it the opposite? the vocals are more at the front but the lyrics in pop matter little. Well...yeah but you have to have some sort of broad reaching lyrics. Obvious lines about universal topics like break ups or your uncontrollable need to party tonight and how fun that's gonna be or about how good girls actually do want it (and they know it) or how if a man liked it so much, why didn't he put a ring on it? (fairly dated reference i know but it just came to mind for some reason)

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:16 PM   #56
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I don't even know who his intended audience is supposed to be with these kind of lyrics
40 year olds who bought MCIS

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:01 PM   #57
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It's gone.
you can still listen to it here:
http://www.spreaker.com/user/johnlau...ected=true#_=_



It's a good song, ruined by the lack of proper lyrics. I think that's a good description of the whole album.

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:08 PM   #58
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isn't it the opposite? the vocals are more at the front but the lyrics in pop matter little. Well...yeah but you have to have some sort of broad reaching lyrics. Obvious lines about universal topics like break ups or your uncontrollable need to party tonight and how fun that's gonna be or about how good girls actually do want it (and they know it) or how if a man liked it so much, why didn't he put a ring on it? (fairly dated reference i know but it just came to mind for some reason)
They don't matter if you're listening to bad pop music

It takes emphasis away from the instrumentation and redirects it onto the vocal melody making the lyrics very apparent

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:40 PM   #59
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it isn't gone, just country restricted.

http://youtubeunblocked.com/browse.p.../#.VHzRDGdR6ho

 
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:45 PM   #60
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and here is anaise!
http://www.unblockyoutube.co.uk/perm...0eQO9yXg%3D%3D

 
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