Charles Manson murdering actresses IN HELL

[yo soy el mejor]

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[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

I can't explain it, but I'm slightly gay for that end scene/song.

it's a good one. so is this cute n sexy rehearsal of theirs.

[Mals Marola]

wonder if Satan will force him to hang out with poop people like Ted Bundy

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by qwerty sp

F*** you Manson, bastard

it's ok, you can say "fuck" in here, son.

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

wonder if Satan will force him to hang out with poop people like Ted Bundy

no way i bet as punishment god sent him to heaven

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor

no way i bet as punishment god sent him to heaven

well he does owe him one, what with Manson creating him & all

[slunken]

was this posted yet?

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I can't stop laughing

[FlamingGlobes]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

seriously though, this guy was so profoundly insane. i'm not here to glamorize him or his deeds or anything, but i do have some appreciation for how abnormally his brain works. it's fascinating. it's strange to think he's the real life embodiment of all the gruesomely evil villains and serial killers we'd been satiated with through the history of filmed entertainment. there are many crazy people out there but few were genuinely insane quite like him - he was the real deal. pure, raw, unfiltered, untamed, uncontrolled crazy that's just crazy cause it's crazy.

Got half-way through before I realized you weren't talking about Swayze.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

I think he's more stupid crazy than gruesome crazy, based on the massive amount of serial killer material I've read. But he was definitely a twisted motherfucker. Enjoy hell, bucko!

I don't think its fair to group Manson in with serial killers. He was a cult leader. He has more in common with Jim Jones than with Ted Bundy.

I don't think any of the murders would have happened if someone would have given him a record deal or if Terry Melcher would have returned his calls. Or if he wouldn't have tried to move into Dennis Wilson's house. He completely failed at his first chance at a studio session, recorded by Stephen Despar I think at Brian Wilson's home studio.

I have a copy of "The Family" by Ed Sanders at my folks house. I should re-read it over the holiday.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

there were definitely smarter and more insane guys, notably David Parker Ray which still haunts my thoughts occasionally, but i wouldn't say manson was stupid

DPR is terrible but have you ever read about the toolbox killers? fuckin' terrible. they recorded an attack on one victim and when they played it in court people were vomiting and crying and jurors ran out of court. you can read the transcript but the audio has never been released and i would never listen to it

[Mals Marola]

the mike love tweet is priceless

good to see he's still up to his old "hijinks" himself

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

the mike love tweet is priceless

good to see he's still up to his old "hijinks" himself

I think that sailor's cap he wears all the time is affecting his brain

[ilikeplanets]

Originally Posted by reprise85

DPR is terrible but have you ever read about the toolbox killers? fuckin' terrible. they recorded an attack on one victim and when they played it in court people were vomiting and crying and jurors ran out of court. you can read the transcript but the audio has never been released and i would never listen to it

yes

[ilikeplanets]

Originally Posted by slunken

was this posted yet?

https://i.imgur.com/g7DQyi3l.png

I can't stop laughing

holy shit

[fuzzyroes]

To be fair, It was never proven that Manson personally murdered anyone.

[reprise85]

yes he was convicted of first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. you don't have to stab someone to commit murder, he was the mastermind. also they killed more people than just the Tate murders, and he might have personally done some of those.

once again fuzzy has no idea what he's talking about

edit: fuzzy said he was never charged with murder before he edited it

[reprise85]

hitler never murdered anyone

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

yes he was convicted of first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. you don't have to stab someone to commit murder, he was the mastermind. also they killed more people than just the Tate murders, and he might have personally done some of those.

once again fuzzy has no idea what he's talking about

Oh so he might have killed some other people? Good of you to think so.

Guys definitely a creep and deserved everything he got. I'm not defending his actions in any way. It's just that some people in this thread are acting like he's one of the worst monsters that the worlds ever seen which is a bit much.

[Disco King]

Once somebody is sufficiently monstrous, it becomes a little pointless to try to figure out exactly how monstrous that person is, and where that person ranks in the list of monsters throughout history.

[Disco King]

"Lol, Charles Manson doesn't even rank in the top twenty worse murderous cult leaders. I've ranked every human that's ever been from most to least monstrous, and Manson isn't anywhere near the top."

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by slunken

I don't think its fair to group Manson in with serial killers. He was a cult leader. He has more in common with Jim Jones than with Ted Bundy.

I don't think any of the murders would have happened if someone would have given him a record deal or if Terry Melcher would have returned his calls. Or if he wouldn't have tried to move into Dennis Wilson's house. He completely failed at his first chance at a studio session, recorded by Stephen Despar I think at Brian Wilson's home studio.

I have a copy of "The Family" by Ed Sanders at my folks house. I should re-read it over the holiday.

This

Serial Killers are all about the evil thrill they get when they kill someone. Manson was a bad man, but the worlds seen much worse. The only reason the Manson case gets so much attention is the celebrity angles.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Oh so he might have killed some other people? Good of you to think so.

Guys definitely a creep and deserved everything he got. I'm not defending his actions in any way. It's just that some people in this thread are acting like he's one of the worst monsters that the worlds ever seen which is a bit much.

You said he was never charged with murder. But he was charged and convicted of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Don't repeat bullshit you've heard on the internet when one glance at wikipedia will tell you the truth.

[reprise85]

lol nice edit

just admit you were wrong

i don't even disagree that he's not really a serial killer

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Once somebody is sufficiently monstrous, it becomes a little pointless to try to figure out exactly how monstrous that person is, and where that person ranks in the list of monsters throughout history.

Yeah, fair enough. I see the point.

Some experts would suggest that there was a difference in his physiology as compared to the pure evil that you see in other serial killers though.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

This

Serial Killers are all about the evil thrill they get when they kill someone. Manson was a bad man, but the worlds seen much worse. The only reason the Manson case gets so much attention is the celebrity angles.

Serial killers actually have varied motives for their killings, yes the 'evil thrill' is a common one but it isn't inclusive of all serial killers. Other than that, I agree with this.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Yeah, fair enough. I see the point.

Some experts would suggest that there was a difference in his physiology as compared to the pure evil that you see in other serial killers though.

Serial killer's (really psychopaths, there is no 'serial killer' brain) brains are not much different than everyone else. They have underactive frontal lobes and reduced activity to shocking and negative experiences and content. Other than that there is more difference between killers than between killers and non-killers.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

lol nice edit

just admit you were wrong

i don't even disagree that he's not really a serial killer

I'm not backtracking in any way. The edit simply properly conveys what I was originally trying to illustrate. I simply made an error regarding the legality aspect.

[reprise85]

"he never got charged with murder" is not the same as "he was never proven to have personally murdered with his own hands"

like i said, hitler didn't kill anybody either by those standards (besides himself)

if you did not mean to say "he never got charged" then ok, but that is what you said, and is demonstrably false. somehow i believe you really thought he never was charged with murder because lots of people think that is true

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

Serial killer's (really psychopaths, there is no 'serial killer' brain) brains are not much different than everyone else. They have underactive frontal lobes and reduced activity to shocking and negative experiences and content. Other than that there is more difference between killers than between killers and non-killers.

Rationalize it however you like, but finding pleasure in killing people without a damn good motive is pure and utter evil. There's no other way to look at it. Even if it's a result of severe mental illness, the killer should still have enough sense to know it's wrong and get help.

I know this is your area of expertise though, and people in your field of interest always wanna look for scientific reasoning... But sometimes people are just bad and evil and people try too hard to wanna justify their behavior.