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Old 09-22-2020, 03:05 PM   #31
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He should have kept Nicole in the band. She played well. She could sing back up well. She wrote the base lines for the songs on Oceania.


But he threw a tantrum cause his giant disco ball tour was a financial disaster, and bill took it out on Nicole and Mike.

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:08 PM   #32
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I think the real problem for bill was that many of the fans liked Nicole and Mike, both of whom interacted with us via social media. The weekend of the CD launch in Chicago Nicole and Mike went out to the bar with people from cruise party. They were very personable. They seemed happy and excited to have recorded the album and to be touring in SP.

I think bill didn't like the fact that they got positive attention from some media fans, while at the same time online fans were trashing bill and everything he had done since the reunion.

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:11 PM   #33
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Thank gawd nicole is gone, tho. Cause bill is a raging transphobe/homophobe.

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:12 PM   #34
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He should have kept Nicole in the band. She played well. She could sing back up well. She wrote the base lines for the songs on Oceania.


But he threw a tantrum cause his giant disco ball tour was a financial disaster, and bill took it out on Nicole and Mike.
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I think the real problem for bill was that many of the fans liked Nicole and Mike, both of whom interacted with us via social media. The weekend of the CD launch in Chicago Nicole and Mike went out to the bar with people from cruise party. They were very personable. They seemed happy and excited to have recorded the album and to be touring in SP.

I think bill didn't like the fact that they got positive attention from some media fans, while at the same time online fans were trashing bill and everything he had done since the reunion.
Why does big willie have to get so jellie of his best bandmates? Isn’t this basically why zwan ended? Big willie got jellie he wasn’t gettin the best handies? Meanwhile sexy lil pajo’s got not a care in the world....

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:13 PM   #35
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Why does big willie have to get so jellie of his best bandmates? Isn’t this basically why zwan ended? Big willie got jellie he wasn’t gettin the best handies? Meanwhile sexy lil pajo’s got not a care in the world....
He has to be the biggest dick in the room or he takes his willie and goes home

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:16 PM   #36
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Someone asked Billy if he would work with Nicole again and he replied "of course, love Nicole". I don't think there's any problem between them.

 
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The interviews of the band during the TGBK-Oceania years were soooo cringy. Bill was constantly not cooperating with interviewers. Nicole and Mike looked horrified half the time while bill did all the talking. Even though many interviewers wanted to ask them questions.

We needed a D'arcy eye roll back then

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:16 PM   #38
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Someone asked Billy if he would work with Nicole again and he replied "of course, love Nicole". I don't think there's any problem between them.
Ha!

I've talked to her. That's not true

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:17 PM   #39
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She had no idea why he dumped her and Mike.

 
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And he trashed them publicly after he fired them

 
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Why is she always tagging Billy and replying to his posts on Instagram then?

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:18 PM   #42
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:18 PM   #43
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Bill told everyone that Nicole was unprofessional and not committed to SP, because she recorded bass and sang back-up on an album with her partner

 
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in any case, i think some of y'all are forgetting just how much people ragged on Mike, endlessly, as a drummer. i never thought he was so offensively bad but i guess people had it in their minds he was going to magically harness the power, tone & finesse of Jim at the age of 19 just becasue, what, Bill recruited him?

ah well, he sounded better in Bearcubbin' anyway

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:20 PM   #45
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Why is she always tagging Billy and replying to his posts on Instagram then?
Maybe they made up? I don't know. I haven't talked to her for 4+ years. And I don't follow bigot men who threaten violence on women on social media...

 
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The same woman who was around here saying how she wanted to punch Baby-faced Mike when he was still a minor? I see.

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:22 PM   #47
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in any case, i think some of y'all are forgetting just how much people ragged on Mike, endlessly, as a drummer. i never thought he was so offensively bad but i guess people had it in their minds he was going to magically harness the power, tone & finesse of Jim at the age of 19 just becasue, what, Bill recruited him?

ah well, he sounded better in Bearcubbin' anyway
Mike was nearly universally disparaged for his drumming.

He was a nice kid, though.


Somewhere I have a pic of him and Matt Walker together in Chicago.... Which was kind of strange to talk to both of them at the same time

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:31 PM   #48
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The same woman who was around here saying how she wanted to punch Baby-faced Mike when he was still a minor? I see.
bill publicly threatened to beat the shit out of her and ruin her business. That had nothing to do with Mike.

bill is a misogynist and a bigot and he reverts to threatening and trashing people, especially women, in public when he gets angry.

 
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And that happened exactly after she was publicly posting stuff like that about Billy and his band, here and other boards, only because he didn't use her pedal to record the album – which was a gift. But I like how you relativize acts of violence.

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 04:51 PM   #50
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I like the album. Liked it when it was released. Wish Jimmy had drummed on it, sure, but given that a teenager drummed on it I’d say it came out quite good. Not sure why Bottrill was brought in. Never really liked his mixes

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:31 PM   #54
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I'm just happy knowing that at least somebody has the inside scoop and is obviously the type of person that possesses desirable information in general. That's plenty.

 
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Old 09-22-2020, 08:17 PM   #55
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Oceania rules and is wildly underrated
If Jimmy was on it and Nicole still on drums, would’ve been easily a top tier SP album.

 
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About Oceania.....
I felt like Mike sounded pretty good at that record store day show and he kills As Rome Burns, which is quite technical and difficult, at the Viper Room show.
It's how Bollz smashed and compressed the drums to sound 'modern' that I feel makes the drum performance suffer.
The production certainly didn't do the kid any favors.

 
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in any case, i think some of y'all are forgetting just how much people ragged on Mike, endlessly, as a drummer. i never thought he was so offensively bad but i guess people had it in their minds he was going to magically harness the power, tone & finesse of Jim at the age of 19 just becasue, what, Bill recruited him?

ah well, he sounded better in Bearcubbin' anyway
i was 16 and insecure and had nothing better to do with my life

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About Oceania.....
I felt like Mike sounded pretty good at that record store day show and he kills As Rome Burns, which is quite technical and difficult, at the Viper Room show.
It's how Bollz smashed and compressed the drums to sound 'modern' that I feel makes the drum performance suffer.
The production certainly didn't do the kid any favors.
yeah he sounded great at that show - nailed tristessa

 
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Wrong, Tom Tom and A Stitch in Time were the best songs on Teargarden.

 
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:46 AM   #59
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Does anyone really think bolly hired a guy that cant play?

He isnt jimmy sure. The drumming isnt the prob on oceania.
It is the songs, although i like my love is winter best. Rest is typical mediocre billy output.
The drum mix is the prob.

Honestly jimmys drumming on silvery, cyr or col could easily be a drum machine loop.

This miki bashing doesnt stand...

I mean the boy must have severe mental probs after being with billy for some time

 
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100%
Oceania is good overall

 
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