finding out about silverchair's musical skeletons

trev · 11-01-2007, 02:14 PM

well i've never really listened to helmet before, but i know DJ was/is a big fan. i was just listening to betty (1994), and "cicada" from frogstomp (1995) is such a rip of "speechless".

and i can't remember now but there's a cover on the rarities CD that is way too similar to findaway. i think it was "wasted" or "fix me".

i hate it when i find these too similar rip off's, i don't know how these bands / artists can release the songs knowing how close they sound a like. i mean they must know.

LukasJudge · 11-01-2007, 02:25 PM

All the Helmet records prior to them reforming for "Size Matters" were good. "Meantime" and "Betty" were both amazing, especially "Betty". "Size Matters" was decent. The new one is horrible though.

At the end of the day Silverchair was largely Helmet riffs in Nirvana songs. But Page Hamilton from Helmet is a drop-D riff master, so if you want riffs like that, it's hard to be different.

As long as someone is TRYING to be a little different, it should be alright. I mean, if a band is a smidge derivative, as long as they are talented and honest, I can look past it. That's why Joy Division is one of my favorite bands, but I also love Interpol.

DeviousJ · 11-01-2007, 03:16 PM

Well both bands used the exact same guitar, so clearly it was possessed

slunken · 11-01-2007, 08:38 PM

does anyone have an up of Betty?

slunken · 11-01-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LukasJudge

That's why Joy Division is one of my favorite bands, but I also love Interpol.

you can't have a band that doesn't exist as yr favorite so just stick w/ interpol kthx

LukasJudge · 11-01-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slunken

you can't have a band that doesn't exist as yr favorite so just stick w/ interpol kthx

I didn't realize their were rules to who your favorite band was. I guess I was fucking up for seven years as well with the Pumpkins being my favorite band.

I'll stick with Interpol when they learn to branch out musically.

jenga66 · 11-04-2007, 10:28 PM

I think the song you're thinking of as the rip off to "speechless" is "Undecided" from Frogstomp. In fact, while Daniel Johns had arthirtis, silverchair considered having Page Hamilton as their touring guitarist but Page was working on Size Matters so that's why it never happened.

Both bands as of late have sucked big balls lately. Page is having a mid life crisis being a Hollywood rocker dating porn stars and Daniel is writing shitty pop songs.

LukasJudge · 11-04-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jenga66

I think the song you're thinking of as the rip off to "speechless" is "Undecided" from Frogstomp. In fact, while Daniel Johns had arthirtis, silverchair considered having Page Hamilton as their touring guitarist but Page was working on Size Matters so that's why it never happened.

Both bands as of late have sucked big balls lately. Page is having a mid life crisis being a Hollywood rocker dating porn stars and Daniel is writing shitty pop songs.

Hysterical about that arthritis thing. Daniel Johns is busy these days trying to sound like Muse and Radiohead and ends up sounding like Coldplay and new U2.

jenga66 · 11-04-2007, 10:33 PM

Yeah, I don't get it. In a recent interview, Daniel said he wished he could forget the first two albums because they don't define silverchair's "true sound". That's when I dropped the ball and renounced my status as a silverchair fan. Their new song "Straight Lines" is pure stupidity and I hate myself for even trying to like "Diorama". I don't care what anyone says, "Tuna In the Brine" is fucking shit.

celluloid_love · 11-04-2007, 11:05 PM

this place has finally been overrun by 10 year olds

redbull · 11-04-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jenga66

Yeah, I don't get it. In a recent interview, Daniel said he wished he could forget the first two albums because they don't define silverchair's "true sound". That's when I dropped the ball and renounced my status as a silverchair fan. Their new song "Straight Lines" is pure stupidity and I hate myself for even trying to like "Diorama". I don't care what anyone says, "Tuna In the Brine" is fucking shit.

YEAH BRO THE WATER IS VERY HARD TO DRINK, BRO

jenga66 · 11-04-2007, 11:22 PM

By the way, those covers of "Wasted" and "Fix Me are of Black Flag.

Kahlo · 11-05-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jenga66

I don't care what anyone says, "Tuna In the Brine" is fucking shit.

get off this board

redbull · 11-05-2007, 11:54 PM

yeah Tuna in the Brine is probably their best song

LukasJudge · 11-06-2007, 01:02 AM

"The Door" is a ridiculously alternative song. Give them that.

exactlythesame · 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jenga66

Yeah, I don't get it. In a recent interview, Daniel said he wished he could forget the first two albums because they don't define silverchair's "true sound". That's when I dropped the ball and renounced my status as a silverchair fan. Their new song "Straight Lines" is pure stupidity and I hate myself for even trying to like "Diorama". I don't care what anyone says, "Tuna In the Brine" is fucking shit.

i quite like 'insomnia' and 'if you keep losing sleep' on young modern

what do you feel about it, jenga

redbull · 11-06-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by exactlythesame

'if you keep losing sleep'

great song, but i wonder what happened to the rest of this album

redbull · 11-06-2007, 05:52 PM

much better

Rider · 11-06-2007, 07:35 PM

Has Daniel Johns come out of the closet yet?

jenga66 · 11-06-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by exactlythesame

i quite like 'insomnia' and 'if you keep losing sleep' on young modern

what do you feel about it, jenga

"Straight Lines" is the only song I heard off of YM. I considered downloading it, but even if I wanted to I haven't had the opportunity. I wasn't a big fan of the Dissosociatives either, or however you spell it.

btw, Helmet's "Betty" has to be one of the most influential albeit underrated albums of the early 90's if not Helmet's career....those are just my opinions though.

jenga66 · 11-06-2007, 08:57 PM

Oh, and Daniel is married to Natalie Imbruglia, though I'm not sure if that's any consolation.

D. · 11-07-2007, 12:42 AM

why does this board insist on making silverchair topics?

i thought all the silversun pickup ones were bad.

redbull · 11-07-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by D.

why does this board insist on making silverchair topics?

i thought all the silversun pickup ones were bad.

OMG CAN U RAPIDSHARE THIS I DONT DO TORRENT

my fucking ass

D. · 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ciGarski

silverchair and silversun pickups have barely anything to do with one another.

they both get brought up here at least once a month.

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Originally Posted by redbull

OMG CAN U RAPIDSHARE THIS I DONT DO TORRENT

my fucking ass

lol...this post gets a big WTF from me for so many reasons.

but whenever you do find out what my refusal to get on the torrent bandwagon has to do in the slightest with this board constantly talking about silverchair and/or silversun pickups you let me know, k buddy?
but i gotta go to bed so i can wake up early and have breakfast with my girlfriend. you let me know, though, ASAP.

redbull · 11-07-2007, 01:35 AM

D. · 11-07-2007, 01:45 AM

oh i know about redundant threads, i still want redbull to explain his cute little outburst there.

D. · 11-07-2007, 01:52 AM

i thought we was cool but apparently my love of uploads has rubbed him the wrong way.

maybe he can explain!

Rider · 11-07-2007, 02:09 AM

Can we get this thread back on topic and talk about how gay a certain lead singer is. I don't care who he's married to, he wrote a song about being anorexic and now he made a very gay video and sings about being tired of "Walking the Straight Line. "

Rider · 11-07-2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ciGarski

i'm completely game. no shirt, vest, gaystashe. its too much to not question.

The sad thing is I'm not even joking I figured for sure he had come out of the closet. It's like a modern version of The Village People, only the lyrics to YMCA manage to have less innuendo:

Something I will never forget
I felt desperate
And stuck to the marrow
Invisible to everyone else
I’m a sex change
And a damsel with no heroine

Wake me up lower the fever
Walking in a straight line
Set me on fire in the evening
Everything will be fine
Waking up strong in the morning
Walking in a straight line
Lately I’m a desperate believer
But walking in a straight line

I don’t need no time to say
There’s no changing yesterday
If we keep talking and
I keep walking in straight lines

Wake me up lower the fever
Walking in a straight line
Set me on fire in the evening
Everything will be fine
Waking up strong in the morning
Walking in a straight line
Lately I’m a desperate believer
But walking in a straight line

Zerospaced · 11-13-2007, 03:05 PM

If Dumbledore can be gay then so can Daniel, I'll still love Silverchair

11-01-2007, 02:14 PM	#1
trev charm Location: Naarm, Wurundjeri, Woiwurrung, Kulin Nations Posts: 2,222	finding out about silverchair's musical skeletons well i've never really listened to helmet before, but i know DJ was/is a big fan. i was just listening to betty (1994), and "cicada" from frogstomp (1995) is such a rip of "speechless". and i can't remember now but there's a cover on the rarities CD that is way too similar to findaway. i think it was "wasted" or "fix me". i hate it when i find these too similar rip off's, i don't know how these bands / artists can release the songs knowing how close they sound a like. i mean they must know.

11-01-2007, 02:25 PM	#2
LukasJudge Oblivious Virgin Location: The middle of nowhere, the center of everywhere Posts: 41	All the Helmet records prior to them reforming for "Size Matters" were good. "Meantime" and "Betty" were both amazing, especially "Betty". "Size Matters" was decent. The new one is horrible though. At the end of the day Silverchair was largely Helmet riffs in Nirvana songs. But Page Hamilton from Helmet is a drop-D riff master, so if you want riffs like that, it's hard to be different. As long as someone is TRYING to be a little different, it should be alright. I mean, if a band is a smidge derivative, as long as they are talented and honest, I can look past it. That's why Joy Division is one of my favorite bands, but I also love Interpol.

11-01-2007, 03:16 PM	#3
DeviousJ CORNFROST Location: GUREITO DESU YO Posts: 24,888	Well both bands used the exact same guitar, so clearly it was possessed

11-01-2007, 08:38 PM	#4
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	does anyone have an up of Betty?

11-04-2007, 10:28 PM	#7
jenga66 Demi-God Posts: 352	I think the song you're thinking of as the rip off to "speechless" is "Undecided" from Frogstomp. In fact, while Daniel Johns had arthirtis, silverchair considered having Page Hamilton as their touring guitarist but Page was working on Size Matters so that's why it never happened. Both bands as of late have sucked big balls lately. Page is having a mid life crisis being a Hollywood rocker dating porn stars and Daniel is writing shitty pop songs.

11-04-2007, 10:33 PM	#9
jenga66 Demi-God Posts: 352	Yeah, I don't get it. In a recent interview, Daniel said he wished he could forget the first two albums because they don't define silverchair's "true sound". That's when I dropped the ball and renounced my status as a silverchair fan. Their new song "Straight Lines" is pure stupidity and I hate myself for even trying to like "Diorama". I don't care what anyone says, "Tuna In the Brine" is fucking shit.

11-04-2007, 11:05 PM	#10
celluloid_love Minion of Satan Location: creepyu Posts: 7,211	this place has finally been overrun by 10 year olds

11-04-2007, 11:22 PM	#12
jenga66 Demi-God Posts: 352	By the way, those covers of "Wasted" and "Fix Me are of Black Flag.

11-05-2007, 11:54 PM	#14
redbull Immortal Location: like liutenant dan i'm rollin' Posts: 21,016	yeah Tuna in the Brine is probably their best song

11-06-2007, 01:02 AM	#15
LukasJudge Oblivious Virgin Location: The middle of nowhere, the center of everywhere Posts: 41	"The Door" is a ridiculously alternative song. Give them that.

11-06-2007, 05:52 PM	#18
redbull Immortal Location: like liutenant dan i'm rollin' Posts: 21,016	much better

11-06-2007, 07:35 PM	#19
Rider Minion of Satan Location: I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler Posts: 9,517	Has Daniel Johns come out of the closet yet?

11-06-2007, 08:57 PM	#21
jenga66 Demi-God Posts: 352	Oh, and Daniel is married to Natalie Imbruglia, though I'm not sure if that's any consolation.

11-07-2007, 12:42 AM	#22
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	why does this board insist on making silverchair topics? i thought all the silversun pickup ones were bad.

11-07-2007, 01:35 AM	#25
redbull Immortal Location: like liutenant dan i'm rollin' Posts: 21,016

11-07-2007, 01:45 AM	#26
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	oh i know about redundant threads, i still want redbull to explain his cute little outburst there.

11-07-2007, 01:52 AM	#27
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	i thought we was cool but apparently my love of uploads has rubbed him the wrong way. maybe he can explain!

11-07-2007, 02:09 AM	#28
Rider Minion of Satan Location: I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler Posts: 9,517	Can we get this thread back on topic and talk about how gay a certain lead singer is. I don't care who he's married to, he wrote a song about being anorexic and now he made a very gay video and sings about being tired of "Walking the Straight Line. "

11-13-2007, 03:05 PM	#30
Zerospaced Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,344	If Dumbledore can be gay then so can Daniel, I'll still love Silverchair