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Old 03-31-2014, 03:28 AM   #121
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"Billy Corgan ‏@Billy 2 Std.
Great fun at @ZuZusTeahouse today doing 'Sunday With Rumi.' Really warm folks visiting, and a strange trip. Check SP Nexus 4 latest SP news"

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Karen Reeder ‏@MovieHood 8 Std.
Applause to your new sound @Billy The Best creme Earl Grey @ZuZusTeahouse @RARETEACELLAR She is beautiful. XOX from the girl in the beret!"

"Maura Daley ‏@mauraadaley 10 Std.
Pretty awesome Sunday synthesizing #Rumi at @ZuZusTeahouse today. Many thanks, @Billy pic.twitter.com/Dr1UEAzMK3"

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Old 03-31-2014, 04:50 AM   #122
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seriously? how is this not the most hipstery thing he's ever done
Because where I come from this sort of performance isn't "hipster" but old-school.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:52 AM   #123
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You liked it before it was cool?

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:58 AM   #124
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I wasn't even born then.
Got to ask my family about salon soirees of the '50s, piano improvisations to literature readings, when it "started to be cool."

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:38 AM   #125
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I liked it before I was born!

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:41 AM   #126
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monty python = classic

Stan Marsh = dated irrelevance
hahahahahahahahahaha

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:41 AM   #127
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I wasn't even born then.
Got to ask my family about salon soirees of the '50s, piano improvisations to literature readings, when it "started to be cool."
original hipstars

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:15 AM   #128
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original hipstars
ever watched Tom Waits' Big Time performances? Imagine if the term hipster would have been around in the 70s.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:18 AM   #129
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i think they were just called faggots then

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:43 AM   #130
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It started in 1997. It can be hit or miss now but when it hits it's better than it was in the beginning.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:13 AM   #131
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The way he explained what he was doing, made sense of the whole project. This is something that is way outside his comfort level, and there are a million things that can go wrong. That excites him and he doesn't know where it will end up. It's very different from writing a song, then recording it, then touring and playing it every other night. If one thing goes wrong in a song like that, he can just move to the next chord and pretend everything's fine. I think taking that chance and not being afraid of failure is very cool. It is rekindling his initial fear of messing up in public. The 2000 United Center show, he messed up the words to Muzzle, but just kept going, and there was another 3 hours of show left, nobody cared at the end of the night that he flubbed the words to one song. With this experience, if he messes up something, it could be catastrophic.

When you're a musician and you are inexperienced, there is a real fear of failure that is exhilarating in a way. Then you learn from it, and learn how to handle mistakes. After you overcome that, it doesn't give you the same tension and thrill. There's no sense of danger. He's long since surpassed that feeling, but this brings a lot of that back. I think it's cool.

This wasn't a concert, SP or Billy, this was him getting excited about things again, and then channeling that into his actual songs and forthcoming albums. I guess a lot of people had other expectations.
The reasoning behind it is odd to say the least. I still think that this really does come down to him wanting to promote his shop as an art space and sell teas, and he has said as much the first time around when he did this. I don't know how Billy lost his fear of failure, it's not something that ever really goes away unless you're doing the same thing over and over again. I dunno, maybe Billy has been failing so long that he no longer fears it. Billy's body language is tough to read in these situations, he always looks insecure when he's not hiding behind a guitar. Most people really won't notice at all if he messes up, it's also hard to tell when it comes to noise music as it's not a type of music that most people are exposed to. I'm just not sure how this rekindles his sense of danger, especially since he has purposely set it up in his own tea shop where the majority of his fans and friends will show up. He's still safe in his own bubble. Now if he did a random free show in Chicago under an alias...that sounds much more effective in scaring the shit out of him.

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Another thing he said was that he can't judge whether any of it is good or bad... like when you're a kid and you start drawing, but you don't know what you're trying to make... it doesn't matter if your mom thinks it's a good drawing, the point is you were drawing. Billy is doodling in public and there's an excitement he gets from it and is nice enough to let people in on the process. Again... pretty cool.
I think in this case you can, because Billy isn't a child and there is already a large body of work over the past several decades that have shaped noise music. But I could be bias because I just don't care much for the process, the process that any artist goes through is interesting but ultimately usually boring to watch. Watching a songwriters process is like watching a writers process, to me at least.

But what the hell, if he really believes it's working for him then so be it. I guess we'll find out when we hear the new songs.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:33 AM   #132
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They weren't there for the poems.

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:29 AM   #133
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:35 AM   #134
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not good

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:47 AM   #135
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not the worst thing i've ever heard

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 03:24 AM   #136
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They still have their moments... but more often than not it's overly smug bullshit. It definitely isn't the cultural phenomenon it used to be. I haven't heard anyone try to do Cartman impressions since last century.
fat nerds running monty python into the ground doesn't help your cause

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 05:51 AM   #137
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Maybe this synths crap is boring. Next.

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 07:08 AM   #138
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This is pretty shallow but I can't take anyone seriously who is using a drinking straw.

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 07:58 AM   #139
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is the straw made of plastic? what about plastic poisoning?

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:06 AM   #140
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Billy should use Bamboo drinking straws...

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Old 04-01-2014, 08:16 AM   #141
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what about the pandas though? they'll starve.

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:07 AM   #142
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yaaaay! trots, you win. usa! usa!

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:07 AM   #143
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in your face, kreatorkind. ahahahaha! why don't you go to the teashop and listen to belly making some beepy music and find it cool and interesting lol

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:30 AM   #144
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lol loser

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:37 PM   #145
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what does it all mean?

 
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:27 PM   #146
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Appearing for the 3rd time at Madame Zuzu’s as WPC, Billy put on a 3 ˝ hour show using poems by the Sufi poet Rumi as subtext for a continued exploration in modular synthesis.

Performed were: ‘Any Soul That Drank The Nectar,’ ‘All Through Eternity,’ 'I Was Dead,’ and ‘The Rubiyat Of Rumi.’

Also announced were plans to release a series of experimental recordings from 2007 (which will appear on a private press label sold through Zuzu’s), as well as the possibility of an extensive Siddhartha set offered for release later this year; in exclusive vinyl, collectors sets.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:20 PM   #147
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April Fools?

Now he's selling his own recording through the teashop...it really is only going to be a matter of time before he'll offer SP exclusives through his teashop, too.

And who the fuck would buy the Siddhartha set in vinyl and in a collectors set? I swear someone called that one. Might have been slunken.

 
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:40 AM   #148
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It's too bad that the sort of person who would buy that wouldn't actually play it. Collectors edition, indeed.

 
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:47 AM   #149
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Eh, I just can't care enough anymore to have a cause. Especially on the topic of South Park. I'll say you win if that makes you feel better.
i didn't even fucking try

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