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Old 12-02-2011, 04:54 PM   #1
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why exactly did they decide to break up in 2000? obviously, billy and james had a non-existent relationship at that point, but they were still fucking awesome. was it artistic reasons, or was the band cooked at that point?

billy, jimmy, and madm could still rock though, with or without james imo.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:00 PM   #2
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wtf

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:03 PM   #3
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The Britneys of the world.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:14 PM   #4
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obviously it was because james and d'arcy couldn't play, and they had really inconsistent live shows.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:16 PM   #5
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:29 PM   #6
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:33 PM   #7
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Declining sales, label disinterest, no D'Arcy, James wanting out...

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:17 PM   #9
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Declining sales, label disinterest, no D'Arcy, James wanting out...
they could still sell out concerts though

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:29 PM   #10
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:15 PM   #11
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you are the sp historians. a fan should come here to inquire about these events.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:26 PM   #12
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The break-up was probably devised by ancient aliens that visited our planet and left Billy messages which he received in his guitar via the microwaves from the pyramids.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:37 PM   #13
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The break-up was probably devised by ancient aliens that visited our planet and left Billy messages which he received in his guitar via the microwaves from the pyramids.
Ah, the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:18 PM   #14
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they could still sell out concerts though
Clubs yes, stadiums no.

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The break-up was probably devised by ancient aliens that visited our planet and left Billy messages which he received in his guitar via the microwaves from the pyramids.
Actually, those messages are contained in the genetic codes of whales, as well as a few ancient libraries around the world (including Machu Picho and the paws of The Sphinx),

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:18 PM   #15
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albums sales were dropping
jimmy got thrown in jail
d'arcy left for drug problems/refusing to seek help
james started to hate billy for some reason


the band was falling apart and billy knew not to continue it any further. if only he had left it that way.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:39 PM   #16
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because 2000 was an epic year to finish on, with plenty of astrological/mystical significance. they went out at the zenith of millenium fever, just before the party was truly over with the advent of 2001. you wouldn't want to break up the same year that 9/11 happened, its just bad karma. you want to give people a good 9 months at least to get over you before the main event happens.

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:11 PM   #17
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albums sales were dropping
jimmy got thrown in jail
d'arcy left for drug problems/refusing to seek help
james started to hate billy for some reason


the band was falling apart and billy knew not to continue it any further. if only he had left it that way.
i never knew jimmy went to jail, i thought he got out of it via rehab

 
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:35 PM   #18
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:03 AM   #19
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the machina mystery explains it all.

don't be dense.

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:07 AM   #20
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billy, jimmy, and madm could still rock though, with or without james imo.
Ironically, that would be a more legitimate line-up than the current one of Billy + 3 nobodies trying to desperately carry on the SP legacy. And Billy, Jimmy and MadM would probably profit from it more than each going off on their own solo tangents like they are doing now.

*sigh*

It's a shame Jimmy can't stand Billy now because that means it'll probably never happen now. Out of our Minds was on par with anything the Pumpkins are putting out these days anyway, maybe Melissa is better off on her own...

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:23 AM   #21
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i dont' really think jim & madm care about profiting. melissa in particular is self-funding the majority of her projects. most of em aren't really my cuppa tea, but she is going after her own vision on her own terms without $ being the objective and i respect that.

bill's wishes the sp name was making him richer nowadays.

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:00 PM   #22
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you wouldn't want to break up the same year that 9/11 happened, its just bad karma. you want to give people a good 9 months at least to get over you before the main event happens.
are you seriously comparing the sp break up to 9/11?

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:43 PM   #23
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it's a conspiracy

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:41 PM   #24
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the machina mystery explains it all.

don't be dense.

 
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:53 AM   #25
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are you seriously comparing the sp break up to 9/11?
Yes, that's totally what he is doing. Obviously.

 
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:51 AM   #26
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i dont' really think jim & madm care about profiting. melissa in particular is self-funding the majority of her projects. most of em aren't really my cuppa tea, but she is going after her own vision on her own terms without $ being the objective and i respect that.

bill's wishes the sp name was making him richer nowadays.
If it was, we wouldn't be forking out $70 for two CDs we bought a decade ago.

I know I'm being pedantic, but it would be better to have some more "original" band members in the new SP.

The current line-up makes Axl Rose and Dizzy Reed's GNR look genuine.

 
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