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Old 01-23-2019, 05:21 PM   #1471
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punk bands like NOFX and Green Day you absolute dumbass

waste of oxygen fucktard
this was unnecessary though, I was piss on the GameCube drunk

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:51 PM   #1472
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Green Day came up in the Bay area punk scene and played all the shitty dives and did multiple shitty van tours. It's not like they became successful overnight. Gotta give them a bit of credit, they made a record (Dookie) that had catchy songs and got radio play. But then again not everyone is a close minded elitist who only listens to UK punk and post punk from 1976-1982.

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:59 PM   #1473
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you're assuming elephant bore cares about things like credentials or hard work. dude's screening questions are "is it within a 5-year radius of the first Ramones album" & "how much leather is involved?"

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 07:31 PM   #1474
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Green Day came up in the Bay area punk scene and played all the shitty dives and did multiple shitty van tours. It's not like they became successful overnight. Gotta give them a bit of credit, they made a record (Dookie) that had catchy songs and got radio play. But then again not everyone is a close minded elitist who only listens to UK punk and post punk from 1976-1982.
They're from the Gilman scene

all ages venue that banned alcohol, lots of mediocre bands, not a lot of clever people

the only reason however that Green Day is of note is that Dookie was a glossy major label alternative release

similarly you can look at say The Offspring and Smash

my biggest gripe however is just that the music is tedious and juvenile

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 07:37 PM   #1475
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I would say they "sold out" and they honestly did

but it's not as if they were any good as a punk band, becoming an arena rock act was the best thing for them, blast that teen pop

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:57 PM   #1476
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I honestly think Green Day write great songs and play their asses off.

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:05 PM   #1477
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They're from the Gilman scene

all ages venue that banned alcohol, lots of mediocre bands, not a lot of clever people

the only reason however that Green Day is of note is that Dookie was a glossy major label alternative release

similarly you can look at say The Offspring and Smash

my biggest gripe however is just that the music is tedious and juvenile
Smash was on an independent label, foo!

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:11 PM   #1478
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And out come the wolves was pretty decent.
Life Won't Wait kicks ass too. Love that record!


 
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:25 PM   #1479
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have you heard early Offspring

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:46 PM   #1480
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have you heard early Offspring
Yeah, wasn't all that into it to be honest. Smash is the only record of theirs that I really like.

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:51 PM   #1481
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their singer sounds like he drinks too many espressos.

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:16 PM   #1482
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I don’t like the Offspring when they try to play fast Bad Religion style. Only song I really liked by them was Gotta Get Away. Dudes voice can be grating as hell.

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:28 PM   #1483
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I donít like the Offspring when they try to play fast Bad Religion style. Only song I really liked by them was Gotta Get Away. Dudes voice can be grating as hell.
the first time i heard Gotta Get Away, i was riding in a car with several other people, only one of whom i knew, going up to a rage against the machine / wu tang clan concert in august 1997. it was pouring rain and a very close friend had died the day before, and i was a mess. the kids in the car were drumming along to the song intro on the seats and roof and stuff, and it was a brief reprieve where i felt like shit was ok for a little while. so i've got a soft spot for that song


is there any news about the machine reissue though? and is there consensus that bill using a completely different artist for the reissue is bad? cause that's how i feel

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:41 PM   #1484
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The 90s are over.

It's 2019, and the Billy Corgans and Donald Trumps run the world.

Is this hell?

 
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:44 PM   #1485
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Dudes voice can be grating as hell.
I know what you mean bro.


 
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:38 AM   #1486
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god Rancid is the worst band I've ever heard

it's all particularly insulting because capitalism found a way to consume the only thing worthwhile on this planet
oh you sweet summer child

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:30 AM   #1487
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I know what you mean bro.

Broadway A-level?
Wouldn't survive the first round of a talent contest.

Put on your old Zero-shirt again instead of stumbling around like a fat pope...

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:59 AM   #1488
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Back to ďno newsĒ, huh?

It canít seriously have been pushed back to a 2020 release after all the hyping Bill did over the last tour.

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:13 AM   #1489
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like a fat pope...
that's fat god to you, pauper!

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:37 AM   #1490
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that's fat god to you, pauper!
"Pope"-attitude at least here in his catholic "Knights of Malta" costume.


Billy told a few days ago on Instagram that he would write now NEW songs for the next SP-album. And he would need a quiet space for his songwriting.

Maybe time to do another trip to Sedona. With the kids and a nanny. Or two.

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:18 AM   #1491
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Who needs a nanny when you've got Jack Bates?

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:55 PM   #1492
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Who needs a nanny when you've got Jack Bates?
Took, I used to think Bates sucked, but I think you and your avatar have single-handedly made me like the young man!

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:30 PM   #1493
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EVERY CONVERT MATTERS

 
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:31 PM   #1494
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"Pope"-attitude at least here in his catholic "Knights of Malta" costume.


Billy told a few days ago on Instagram that he would write now NEW songs for the next SP-album. And he would need a quiet space for his songwriting.

Maybe time to do another trip to Sedona. With the kids and a nanny. Or two.
cool, thanks for the info. i can see how you'd think i wanted to know all that from the above post you quoted

 
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:46 PM   #1495
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If you like to think so...

 
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:05 PM   #1496
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Little interview on the Telegraph of all places today they have a pay wall so copy/paste

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Busy. Iím busy.


Sure. Youíve got a solo album coming out soon, a new Smashing Pumpkins album, an old Smashing Pumpkins album, two small children. How do you find the time?

I do also have a wrestling company. Iím very much involved in wrestling and I find it quite frustrating that people only ever want to talk about my music. Donít get me wrong, I am fully aware of the quality and influence of my music and I get why people are so passionate about it. I do. You have one of the, if not the, best and most celebrated musicians, songwriters, artists of all timeÖ.youíve got the time of this massively influential and iconic frontman, you ask them about music. I get that. But thereís more to me than music.


You want to talk about wrestling?

Well letís not get off track here. Iím here to talk about The Smashing Pumpkins.


Can you tell me about the Machina reissue? Youíre going a lot further than the typical remaster, itís coming out later this year?

I canít give a date for it. The original release was an artistic and commercial endeavor, with the artist beholden to commercial interests. It had to be released on time, it had to be released on budget. Now Iím giving myself the time and budget to do it right, it could be this year, next year, the year after. Itís purely an artistic endeavor this time around.


You must have some idea though?

If it were just Machina, sure. I mean.. I want to get it finished, into stores as soon as possible so we can start making some money. But when youíre working on a solo record, a new band record, a successful wrestling company, you have a family, touringÖitís very hard to say itís going to be out on the 4th of March 2020. Itís not the 4th of March 2020 (laughs), thatís a date I came up with right now. Completely random.


Letís talk about the process, the vision.. Itís a very ambitious project and Iím sure the fans will be interested in hearing more about it.

Sure. The original Machina record was envisioned as a double album. It came out as a single album and it was very much a case of, you know, oh shit weíve got to release this thing (laughs)..lets tidy up as much as we can. The songs on it werenít necessarily the right songs for the record or the best songs, just what we could finish. Thereís at least 2 songs on it that I hate, hated at the time but they were finished so they went on the record.


Can I ask which songs?

(laughs) no!


One song?

Every song on Machina is someones favorite song of all time. What weíre, you know, doing now is Iíve got the track listing done and we have the basic record done beginning to end. Some songs are finished, some are demos, and then thereís everything between. The process is going through each one and doing the necessary work. Jimmyís recorded new drums tracks for some songs, Iíve recorded some new guitar tracks, a lot of vocal tracks.


Your voice and vocal style has changed over the years. Was it difficult to get the Machina style back?

It wouldnít be, I can still sing like that but I donít. Iím doing this record now, so I play guitar as I play guitar now. I sing as I sing now. Jeff, Jack, Mark werenít in the band then but they are now so theyíre on Machina.


Is it fair to say that itís a reinterpretation rather than a remix or remaster?

No itís not a reinterpretation. Itís the band, as it is now, finishing an unfinished record. Youíre finishing some work from 20 years ago.. you donít pretend to forget everything youíve learned in the last 20 years or not use any technology that was invented in the last 20 years. Iím not interested in staying authentic or true (laughs) in that way.

 
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:07 PM   #1497
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some pretty good fan-fiction from incubator

everyone give incubator a round of applause, for this new bit of fan-fiction

(& one for me for my current palindrome of a post count )

 
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:09 PM   #1498
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if i was gonna write fan fiction it'd have a lot more gay sex in it than that

 
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:13 PM   #1499
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Interviewer : Hi Billy I would like to ask you about the smashing pumpkins but first can you dip your bald head in oil and rub it all over my body

Billy : I am the best of all time at doing that ask anyone. I'm not gonna do it but i could if I wanted to any time and would win a lot of prizes for it

Interviewer : Wow. Board me now.

 
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interesting bit of "flash fan fiction," but not quite the behemoth that was your first! (the one a couple of posts ago)

 
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