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Old 08-30-2018, 02:56 PM   #301
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I would be extremely surprised if if it didn't wind up costing $300. I think he's coming around to how much the fanbase wants the thing.
you think he's come around to how much the fanbase has dwindled because of this?

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 03:21 PM   #302
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Fanbase was dying out way before the reissue campaign my man.

He's probably got more people paying attention to him now than he has for years.

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:12 PM   #303
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That makes no sense at all. The album went gold and gave them two hit songs with everlasting gaze and stand inside your love. Are you for real?
A) We live in a universe where time is constantly moving forward, therefore it is not, in fact, 2000 anymore.

B) Even if this weren't true, MACHINA underperformed in terms of sales relative to the first 4 albums

C) Album sales =/= commercial appeal. Also: see A)

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:23 PM   #304
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you know he's a troll, right?

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:50 PM   #305
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I Know You Know (He's a Troll)

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:09 PM   #306
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In no universe were Everlasting Gaze and SIYL hit singles.

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:21 PM   #307
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In no universe were Everlasting Gaze and SIYL hit singles.
no, this is definitely false. I know of a couple of universa where there were hit singles.

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:31 PM   #308
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They got a very minor amount of airplay. Definitely not hit singles.

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 08:27 PM   #309
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Liberty and the Epiphany Machine was the B-side name driving me crazy. It was in the old MACHINA thread that I brought it up and no one could remember it. Glad to have that nailed down.

"May 7, 2000 - Sunrise, FL - hello from the sunshine state! last night was a gas...we had it all...rock people ...rich girls unleashed unknowingly on a sleepy public, to declare siren songs of domination...we let her loose because she is us and we are becoming her more and more in a half-life sense of the word...so as I write we prepare in dusty tomes for tonight's show...what is it going to be? maybe tonight is the night to let it all fall apart so it can be put together humpty dumpty style...we are lost in the wilderness of florida, sunstreaked and crying...is there anybody out there we declare in junk 50's poetry, and the slapback drums yes! yes! yes! cause we are way out there and we are coming to your town...or at least a mall near you...the story is being told I have to remind myself cause I forget that we are in it and the ending is not yet written...or is it in an envelope near you? check under your pillow cause you might find a yellowed tooth or maybe a band of gold or maybe just a plain old band...may god bless florida! it brings out the demon in me...ps. the next b-side is liberty and the epiphany machine, coming to a u.k. record shop near you backed with that song why try, try, try, and keep on trying...we ask ourselves that every single day in every single way...xo"

 
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:00 AM   #310
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imagine paying for this when 90% is online already
The box sets also includə a DVD, which in that case could be the final show or the Arising! Tour.

 
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:23 AM   #311
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Even if they shot the final Metro show or the Arising! tour on video, it would be awesome if they released it on Blu-ray for lossless audio.

 
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Old 08-31-2018, 05:37 AM   #312
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:43 AM   #313
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That doesn’t make sense. Is he just being cheap? Budget artwork by Linda?

 
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:01 AM   #314
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I suppose it's a licencing thing, plus it didn't really jump off the shelves with the brown hues.

I would love a graphic novel too. I wonder what will happen with the whole GATMOG anime and its remixes?

 
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:08 AM   #315
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Liberty and the Epiphany Machine was the B-side name driving me crazy. It was in the old MACHINA thread that I brought it up and no one could remember it. Glad to have that nailed down.
Can someone just ask him if this is an alternate title for something we already know, or something we've never heard before.

 
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:08 AM   #316
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:42 AM   #317
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Don't think this will involve Colona Productions. Talk of storyboards and graphic novels makes me wonder if they're going to try to revisit the GATMOG animated look in a way. I'd go with someone like Lan Medina for that.






It's possible he also thinks all of Vasily's plates were too abstract to get across the story as well as he'd have liked. I remember when it came out I dug that there was kind of a concept behind it but it didn't feel presented in anything close to a coherent fashion.

Fucking sucks VK won't be involved, but hey, not the first time one of the reissues had an art controversy.

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Old 09-01-2018, 05:21 AM   #318
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Liberty and the Epiphany Machine was the B-side name driving me crazy. It was in the old MACHINA thread that I brought it up and no one could remember it. Glad to have that nailed down.

"May 7, 2000 - Sunrise, FL - hello from the sunshine state! last night was a gas...we had it all...rock people ...rich girls unleashed unknowingly on a sleepy public, to declare siren songs of domination...we let her loose because she is us and we are becoming her more and more in a half-life sense of the word...so as I write we prepare in dusty tomes for tonight's show...what is it going to be? maybe tonight is the night to let it all fall apart so it can be put together humpty dumpty style...we are lost in the wilderness of florida, sunstreaked and crying...is there anybody out there we declare in junk 50's poetry, and the slapback drums yes! yes! yes! cause we are way out there and we are coming to your town...or at least a mall near you...the story is being told I have to remind myself cause I forget that we are in it and the ending is not yet written...or is it in an envelope near you? check under your pillow cause you might find a yellowed tooth or maybe a band of gold or maybe just a plain old band...may god bless florida! it brings out the demon in me...ps. the next b-side is liberty and the epiphany machine, coming to a u.k. record shop near you backed with that song why try, try, try, and keep on trying...we ask ourselves that every single day in every single way...xo"
I asked WPC about the song and he told me he thinks he was joking.....so oh well. The May 10, 2000 post says he changed it back to 'Here's To The Atom Bomb'.

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Old 09-01-2018, 09:26 AM   #319
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This reissue is going to suck.

I'll still probably torrent it.

 
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:46 AM   #320
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it's kinda like stealing dxm. you know it sucks, you know it will make you sick, you know it's shameful, yet you still steal it.

 
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:06 PM   #321
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Lol- reissue? What for? 90% is already available (internet).
So who is going to buy this? Maxbe a 300 hardcore fans?
Funny how billy treats ppl on insta.

 
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:07 PM   #322
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funny how you act like you're not a slav

 
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:07 PM   #323
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when we all know you are from belarus

 
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They got a very minor amount of airplay. Definitely not hit singles.
As I said before Wikipedia is your friend. It doesn’t have to be a guessing game.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_...ns_discography

They were clearly both hit songs

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:13 AM   #325
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As I said before Wikipedia is your friend. It doesnít have to be a guessing game.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_...ns_discography

They were clearly both hit songs
EG isnít even listed. SIYL landed at 11 in the US charts.

Nobody in the general public would be able to name those songs if asked. They were not hits.

 
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EG was a promotional single with a video. It was 14 on mainstream rock charts. Are you honestly telling me that 11 and 14 on mainstream rock charts doesn’t mean it’s a real genuine hit? You are going to just argue for the sake of arguing and not just admit that I’m right and Machina does have commercial appeal?

I’m convinced now that netphoria is bizarro world. Everything here is so assbackwards

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Old 09-02-2018, 04:00 AM   #327
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Yeah that's exactly what we're telling you. #11 and #14 are minor hits. They probably only held that chart position for a week or two. There was very little hype around the release of Machina. I was there and remember only hearing those songs a couple of times on the radio. The public had moved on from the band at that point and the sales of the album reflect that.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:05 AM   #328
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The album went gold. They played on letterman and Leno and Bill Maherís old show. Youíre not making any sense. Or youíre just masochistic or bored and thatís why you are arguing this pointless case

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:09 AM   #329
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500,000 albums was nothing in 2000. Very low sales for a time when physical media was still prevalent. Yeah they did promo tv spots, sure, just on name recognition alone. The album was not very successful, go ask Billy if he thinks it was.

 
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zeitgeist was number 2 it was a super smash hit

 
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