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Old 04-06-2016, 08:14 AM   #421
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http://www.avclub.com/article/billy-...ole-pave-47769

Billy Corgan is still pissed about that whole Pavement thing
By Sean O'Neal@seanoneal

As our own Steve Hyden explores so eloquently in his latest dispatch from the ’90s, a Billy Corgan with nothing to fight against is no Billy Corgan at all. And since most people stopped mocking Billy Corgan once he turned to Jessica Simpson-dating, writing-songs-based-on-tarot-cards self-parody, he was forced to revive a feud so old it could now attend Lollapalooza itself and form its own opinions on why Billy Corgan is sort of a self-absorbed wanker. Upon learning that whatever Corgan is calling the Smashing Pumpkins these days would be playing a Brazil show with the recently reunited Pavement, Corgan—still smarting over that time Stephen Malkmus sort of halfheartedly insulted him in the lyrics to “Range Life”—did the rock star thing and bitched about it on Twitter:

Just found out SP is playing with Pavement in Brazil. It’s gonna be 1 of those New Orleans type funerals… I say that because they represent the death of the alternative dream, and we follow with the affirmation of life part… funny how those who pointed the big finger of ’sell out’ are the biggest offenders now…yawn. they have no love… by the way, we’ll be the band up there playing NEW songs because we have the love xx

As you may recall, Malkmus once called Smashing Pumpkins “nature kids” who “don’t have no function,” then expressed his overall indifference to his inability to understand what they mean. Which is egregious, simply egregious—and also, vague and not that big a deal, really. But then Malkmus was egged on in various interviews, where he said that while he really liked the Pumpkins’ music, he didn’t really get their “rock star lifestyle” or whatever, which is the sort of thing you’d expect Stephen Malkmus to say in an interview. Anyway, that upset Corgan to the point where he threatened to drop off the headlining slot of the 1995 Lollapalooza if Pavement were allowed to play, and for some reason he seemed surprised that Malkmus continued to make fun of his massive ego ever after that. But now he’s getting his revenge, we guess, what with upholding the “alternative dream” and everything by not selling out and recording new songs. With Jessica Simpson. For her VH1 reality show.


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Well, after James Iha, now I want to see Billy and Malkmus smiling together

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:56 AM   #422
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If I have to hear about "Range Life" one more time... I don't get Pavement, I guess if you triangulate their aesthetic with that of the tweehards who do these fake music blogs and look like Rivers Cuomo. Just Jesus give it up

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:18 AM   #423
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Billy's hard work aesthetic is a polar opposite to pavement's slacker attitude. What's unrealistic is that Pavement probably had to work hard getting where they got, so it was disingenuous to act like slacking off can pay off. For Corgan, that attitude betrayed the generation he was trying to inspire. I would have hated Stephen Malkmus as well, and never did like Pavement for that reason.

Then again Corgan was a huge narcissist and in the end he just attracted narcissists that love to hate him

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:36 PM   #424
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Pavement? What is Pavement?

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:47 PM   #425
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who is jeff?

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:48 PM   #426
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Pavement? What is Pavement?
Here in Ireland pavement is what american people call sidewalk.

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:52 PM   #427
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but what do you call pavement

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 05:55 PM   #428
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sidewalk, duh

 
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Old 04-06-2016, 05:56 PM   #429
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"and we follow with the affirmation of life part..."

and with every omitted consonant, another aspect of life is boldly affirmed by bElly

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 09:17 AM   #430
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Haven't seen this mentioned on this site. Mister Kenny Aronoff was on an episode of the Rock Solid podcast. He talked for almost two hours about his career. He's got a book coming out. Anyway he talks briefly about how he auditioned for the pumpkins for 20 minutes and it was he who came up with the tribal version of bullet.
Always hated this version. Only real thing Bullet had going for it was energy and the "tribal version" killed it.

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:20 PM   #431
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but what do you call pavement
in ireland most people call it the path

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 04:25 PM   #432
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in ireland most people call it the path
in Ireland, the gays are called fags and cigarettes are called smokes

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:14 PM   #433
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Have those two topics been weighing on, or shall we say, depressing, penetrating, your mind?

 
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:48 AM   #434
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Enthusaroo's what you'd call a self-hating gay. He talks about it in another thread; can't find it at the moment, but ever since his mum walked in on him felching the plumber, he's been on this particularly virulent gay bashing streak

Kinda sad, really

 
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Old 09-02-2016, 12:40 PM   #435
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Billy's hard work aesthetic is a polar opposite to pavement's slacker attitude. What's unrealistic is that Pavement probably had to work hard getting where they got, so it was disingenuous to act like slacking off can pay off. For Corgan, that attitude betrayed the generation he was trying to inspire. I would have hated Stephen Malkmus as well, and never did like Pavement for that reason.

Then again Corgan was a huge narcissist and in the end he just attracted narcissists that love to hate him
What a dumb reason to not like a band

 
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Old 09-02-2016, 12:59 PM   #436
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What a dumb reason to not like a band
well that's just your opinion man

 
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:46 AM   #437
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Clearly, this was all my doing last night. You can thank me now

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Bump. Easter is coming.

 
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:54 AM   #438
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awesome bit of trivia

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Old 10-18-2017, 04:00 AM   #439
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:24 AM   #440
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ahhhh oh my god!!!

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Old 10-22-2017, 09:19 PM   #441
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JIMBO with the bants


 
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