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07-19-2018, 10:22 PM | #31 |
Minion of Satan
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Burn down the son! |
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07-19-2018, 10:23 PM | #32 |
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“I don’t see me reaching the highest levels of my creativity if I’m unhealthy and if I have unhealthy people around me."
What a fucking asshole. |
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07-19-2018, 10:29 PM | #33 | |
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07-19-2018, 10:50 PM | #34 |
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I always do my best to forget that RS interview existed. A total trainwreck, and probably the first step in acknowledging that Corgan was irredeemable trash as a person.
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07-19-2018, 11:01 PM | #35 |
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yeah that was my breaking point, that interview.
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07-19-2018, 11:32 PM | #36 |
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Go back to the SP subreddit and talk about how Machina is underrated and your ideal 1 disc MCIS tracklist
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07-19-2018, 11:46 PM | #37 |
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First of all how dare you
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07-19-2018, 11:50 PM | #38 | |
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Thanks for posting that; I’d never read that interview before. Goddamn, Billy is a real shitbag. |
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07-20-2018, 12:40 AM | #39 |
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I can't stand Billy today. Haven't been able to stand him for years. I think he's vile, narcissistic, and possibly a sociopath. But I loved the Pumpkins of the 90s. And I still love them. The Pumpkins, to me, are the original 4. The newer stuff may, in some instances, be decent in its own right, but it's not the Pumpkins. It's just Billy C. Which is fine and dandy, but I'm under no obligation to like his new music. I have been able to separate my love for the band that was from my dislike of Billy. I thought the D'arcy thing, regardless of which side you believe, was handled so poorly that I'm not sure he could redeem it at this point.
Take a band like Veruca Salt - extremely contentious breakup. Louise Post continued touring under the name with rotating band members for years. Until finally the original 4 reunited. Louise's longtime guitarist Stephen didn't become some awkward third guitarist. He quietly stepped aside and let the original band do their thing. That's the way to do a reunion. |
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07-20-2018, 01:06 AM | #40 |
Through Silver In Buds
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Well shiiiiit man how long has it been since we had one of these threads? Zeitgeist maybe? Fucken hell man people were doing these when I signed up in 03
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07-20-2018, 01:10 AM | #41 | |
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Teargarden. Oceania live DVD. Monuments. Ugh. Look at that list and tell me he didn't need Jimmy and that Jim was the destructive person. And look at the tour reviews because James is back. |
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07-20-2018, 01:26 AM | #42 |
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07-20-2018, 01:29 AM | #43 |
Through Silver In Buds
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07-20-2018, 01:31 AM | #44 | |
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2005: [on Zwan] "I got snookered in by really bad people. It's embarrassing to me. But it wised me up to why I play, and who I love, and it made me appreciate my old band even more." --- P.S.: "The other members have suggested in subsequent interview that they were equally unhappy in Zwan, but have been reticent to get too detailed because of non-disclosure agreements that they signed. " 2012: "James Iha I think is just a piece of shit. I think he’s one of the worst human beings I’ve ever met in my life. And D’arcy, she’s sort of, in her own way, sort of an innocent." 2014: "Mike Byrne has taught me a lot about his generation. And watching the twitch up close, the ADD of it all, I’m starting to understand what he found boring about The Mighty SP. He wasn’t wrong. But he also wasn’t right, too." 2018: " “I think what she did demonstrates why she couldn’t be involved,” Mr. Corgan said. “I was vulnerable and shared things and trusted that there was a reason to give it a chance, despite plenty of empirical evidence that that was not a wise decision.” That bridge is now burned “forever,” he added." |
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07-20-2018, 01:41 AM | #45 |
real estate cowboy
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I was trying to dig up some quality work of his, but basically every post was defending Corgan against whatever, also every single song he ever wrote was the best ever and if you disagreed you were a fucking loser
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07-20-2018, 01:51 AM | #46 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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and guess what? he was right.
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07-20-2018, 02:06 AM | #47 |
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I have to say I do agree with the fundamental point you are making in your post, although I do think you take this place a little bit too seriously.
I am what you might call a lurker - for some reason I keep coming back to read the posts (without making any input myself) as I do find them entertaining but I agree that some of them take it too far, especially any personal attacks on Billy or his family or comments on things such as his weight and beliefs. Despite my post counts, I have been a member here for nearly 4 years. Occasionally, I do come on and post, most recently I came on to say that I actually quite liked Solara and the video - only to be roundly attacked and mocked. I think many of the people here loved the old music but don't like the new output from Billy and they like to vent about that - so yes this has essentially become a Billy bashing website which is sad to see for a man which created some of the greatest rock music ever written with his first 5 records. However, nearly every day I clock in and read the comments and posts even though I disagree with most of them. Not quite sure what that says about me. |
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07-20-2018, 02:07 AM | #48 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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ok
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07-20-2018, 02:11 AM | #49 |
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One other thing I would like to observe from my daily lurking sessions is that despite all the Billy bashing, I do get the sense that deep down many of the posters who are doing that, do still love Billy deep down and they would love for him to be successful again. Unless I am just being naïve.
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07-20-2018, 02:15 AM | #50 |
Through Silver In Buds
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oh no fuck no, man. I want Billy to languish into obscurity and die bitter and alone, cause he's a sack of shit dude. That said, SP's 90s output is unparalleled.
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07-20-2018, 02:19 AM | #51 |
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07-20-2018, 03:48 AM | #52 |
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07-20-2018, 03:54 AM | #53 |
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07-20-2018, 04:00 AM | #54 |
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Dear Linda,
Everyone is here because they love Smashing Pumpkins and are hanging onto hope that they'll be great again. People are negative when the music's bad because we know Smashing Pumpkins can be better. The vibe has been very positive since the tour started as it does seem to be legitimately good. I find all of the other "communities" a bit creepy. This place is performing the old D'arcy role. We don't play on any of the records but we do call him out when he does something shit. Sadly he's been doing a lot of shit but the tour does look great KIND REGARDS |
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07-20-2018, 04:56 AM | #55 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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mindy strawtits flies again...
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07-20-2018, 05:22 AM | #56 |
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07-20-2018, 05:53 AM | #57 |
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07-20-2018, 06:03 AM | #58 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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07-20-2018, 06:08 AM | #59 |
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07-20-2018, 06:39 AM | #60 |
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lol hey clay
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