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Old 12-29-2017, 04:41 PM   #61
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you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. if you want to teach someone why their viewpoint is harmful or even dangerous, shouting FUCK YOU DUMB ASS GO TO HELL YOU TERRIBLE PERSON isn't going to make them want to listen, but will put them on the defensive and likely make them think they are correct simply because people who have the opposite opinions are treating them like shit.
Said it better than I did.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:45 PM   #62
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i've held that philosophy for a while

it's not always easy to practice when someone hurts your feelers, though. but it's the best way for humans to learn together, ime.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:45 PM   #63
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When has fuzzy demonstrated that he has a heart, though?

Distancing himself from the more disgusting views he's expressed by claiming to have been drinking or by describing himself as flawed has always struck me as an entirely self-serving bid to move on from the state of outrage that's presumably harmful to his boarding experience in those moments.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:51 PM   #64
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When has fuzzy demonstrated that he has a heart, though?

Distancing himself from the more disgusting views he's expressed by claiming to have been drinking or by describing himself as flawed has always struck me as an entirely self-serving bid to move on from the state of outrage that's presumably harmful to his boarding experience in those moments.
By trying to apologize for his transgressions in spite of tripping over himself just about every time.

By not being hostile towards (most of) those who make fun of him.

By being a perfectly decent presence when not drunk and/or talking politics.

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I'm not excusing or hand-waving his shitty opinions away, or at least that's not the intention. I don't consider "I was drunk" a valid excuse in any scenario. BUT, considering most everyone here has said and done a lot of shit they are ashamed of, I'd hope that the least we could do is draw a line somewhere between criticism and relentless bullying.

I say as someone who voted for Took. But only because his momma so fine.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:54 PM   #65
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When has fuzzy demonstrated that he has a heart, though?

Distancing himself from the more disgusting views he's expressed by claiming to have been drinking or by describing himself as flawed has always struck me as an entirely self-serving bid to move on from the state of outrage that's presumably harmful to his boarding experience in those moments.
he often says he isn't racist, sexist etc and definitely gets upset at the wanton name calling that always comes his way. and he's quick to defend anyone he sees as being bullied, regardless of their beliefs (me included and i'm about as left leaning as an American comes). plus he's always out to make amends with many of the people he knows dislike him. that's not a heartless trait. he doesn't want to be bigoted, i just don't think he knows why what he says is harmful. but i am a naive idealist so i could be wrong.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:56 PM   #66
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Again, I see these examples as entirely self-serving on his part.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:04 PM   #67
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You see things differently than I/we do, clearly.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:04 PM   #68
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I have to imagine being at the bottom of this particular barrel might make one grasp for flimsy excuses. Just a thought.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:06 PM   #69
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It's one thing to feel bad for somebody that is desperate to fit in, but another entirely to imagine that their attempts at doing so necessarily imbue them with an ultimately innocent and/or defensible character.

You'll probably have an easier time of it now that Poots and The Omega Concern are no longer around to trade high-fives over topics such as the inherent evils of Islam, though. He's running out of asses to kiss and is ready to brown his nose exclusively in the sockets you approve of.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:08 PM   #70
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Actually, I'd find the fact that the mods have dispensed with those fucks and fuzzy is still here to speak volumes about the difference between him and them.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:09 PM   #71
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Also, I never made it a habit to fall into any of Poots' traps. All he wanted was a rise out of people and boy, did he get it.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:11 PM   #72
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It's one thing to feel bad for somebody that is desperate to fit in, but another entirely to imagine that their attempts at doing so necessarily imbue them with an ultimately innocent and/or defensible character.
That's not really what I'm driving at. I'm basing my opinion of fuzzy's character solely on my own interactions with him, as well as my observations.

I remember him getting a lot of undue shit before I signed up and started posting. And that was wayyy before he became a Trumpster.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:21 PM   #73
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I feel like my point is flying under your radar.

If a few of us created alternate accounts with the common theme of neo-Nazism, just to provide an extreme example, what I'm saying is that he may very well find in us a brand new crew of buddies with whom to practice his particular brand of desperate sycophancy. When those neo-Nazi accounts were removed, he'd go right back to giving our regular accounts some betting advice. Does that help?

P.S. Roy Moore.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:35 PM   #74
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I strongly disagree with this viewpoint and I feel like this is a BIG part of why our culture is coming undone (well, at least here in America).
yea, calling someone who says "I support white supremacy and fascism" a bad person is a BIG part of why "our" culture is coming undone...

it would be so much nicer if we could just not give someone shit for what they actually say and advocate for. we, the straight white dudes would have such a chill time without this constant bickering just because someone believes the most horrendous shit and repeats that shit constantly.

must be really nice if that's all that's coming undone of your culture.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 06:03 PM   #75
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F'lobs, I'm curious

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much does it hurt you in your heart that we have a president that naked/gleefully dehumanizes women and minorities in his actions, words, and policies?

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 06:16 PM   #76
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Would you have preferred Hillary?

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 06:19 PM   #77
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well fucking obviously

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:17 PM   #78
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So my support for Trump is a lot deeper than just "liking" his narrow view on Muslims or whatever else might cause a controversy.
thanks for pointing that out, maybe also the last of the "good heart" farts finally gets it just how deep your support for our beloved grabembythepussytravelbanalsofuckmuslimsaltogether fasco fuck goes, you little brown shirt. "cause a controversy" like deportation raids or hell denying climate change, nevermind just how many cases for sexual harassment? nevermind single handedly fucking over palestine with one stupid vomit out of his mouth. "cause a controversy." I'd like to cause a controversy with your fucking face.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:18 PM   #79
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For what it's worth, a large portion of my support for Trump is in the belief that the current ruling class needs to be restructured in a big way and Trump ran on that... It seems like they're trying to take him down with all the impeachment talks that are starting to bubble up and this BS collusion nonsense. So in many ways it's a grass roots candidate being taken down by the ruling elite. So my support for Trump is a lot deeper than just "liking" his narrow view on Muslims or whatever else might cause a controversy.
he's part of the ruling class

he has supported all policies beneficial to the ruling class exactly as anyone with half a brain expected

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:24 PM   #80
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nah elphie, please. all his grass roots friends (like the KKK I guess) are enjoying the lack of health care and the great tax cuts. he drained the swamp, stop reading fake news and switch to breitbart, the outlet of fascofuzzy's choice.

also my bad, I forgot our liberal grab14yearoldsbyhtepussy-ifit'sforthegoodcause bro here loves attention of his "opinions"more than anything else. we are in for another 5 pages of his shit now, yay!

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:29 PM   #81
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I personally apologize to you and you thank Slunken and ILP?

I really don't like you fuzzy.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:31 PM   #82
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fuzzy, Ron Paul

both love to pander to racists you got that right

nobody takes Libertarianism seriously without it

some excerpts from Ron Paul's newsletters

"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational."

"Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...etters/250338/

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:32 PM   #83
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Yeah I take back my apology. Sorry Flaming Globes.

Fuck you fuzzy.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:33 PM   #84
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One thing most people can agree on, we're lucky it's not Clinton.
yea most people around the world clap in joy of just how lucky we are that the seat of POTUS is occupied by this guy, very true, I follow the "puh, dodged a bullet" rallies around the world, for once most people agree on something! these rallies are pretty neat, lots of cool boots and blonde hair.

great that we also agree that we can shut the fuck up about any of it now.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:38 PM   #85
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yeah he "has the markets" booming huh

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:41 PM   #86
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this stand off with N Korea sure smells of world stability

I'm sure the people of Seoul are just peachy Trump won

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:43 PM   #87
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oh good thing that all of the people in administration did indeed grow and evolve as far as racism is concerned. puh! let's just hope they keep growing to their full potential.

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:43 PM   #88
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you mean he didn't mention the racist newletters he approved in his own books

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:45 PM   #89
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Thank you fuzzy for making me look if not good then at least less bad in comparison.

you are a lifesaver

 
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:47 PM   #90
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Nah this time it's all about you.

 
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