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Old 10-13-2017, 01:34 AM   #31
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just over here to honestly. And such a great video!!!!!!!!


 
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:40 AM   #32
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the whole video is so G'N'R oh look at us just hangin' out in a semicircle of chairs next to the lake ahahaha great joke jimmy!!

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:48 AM   #33
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never seen that one before! i just remember the stupid lyric video where they walk through the streets playing guitar

jimmy with the stripped down kit there too

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:59 AM   #34
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:28 PM   #35
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Only 8 pre-master tracks have surfaced though as far as I know
Oh I forgot some are missing. I hope Billy remasters the frigging album someday.

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Where can one listen to these pre-masters?
I don't have them on this computer sorry! Maybe someone has 'em?

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:05 PM   #36
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just over here to honestly. And such a great video!!!!!!!!

"Just a picture of my meat" is still the best line he has ever written.

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:07 PM   #37
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Oh I forgot some are missing. I hope Billy remasters the frigging album someday.



I don't have them on this computer sorry! Maybe someone has 'em?
The tracks are clipped and fucked during recording though. It's like the Oasis albums you can't fix them because they were broken as they were recorded.

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:09 PM   #38
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I remember lining up in Wellington in 2001, outside the hole in the wall, to see Shihad play, and the only other tr00 Pumpkins fan in Wellington was telling me about how Billy was starting up a new band. "Yeah?" I said. "Yeah. He's called it.... Zwan." And we both looked at each other and rolled our eyes.

I wanted to like it, I wanted it to be better than that stupid name. But it was too late. There were too many other interesting albums coming out that year and Zwan just made me cringe.
Is 2001 Shihad better than 2001 Bill?

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:43 PM   #39
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just over here to honestly. And such a great video!!!!!!!!

I like dis song

one bazillion times better than anything on ZG and his vocals actually sound like Billy Corgan

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:44 PM   #40
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Is 2001 Shihad better than 2001 Bill?
I dunno, Shihad playing at the Hole in the Wall in 2001 was pretty fun. Shihad are ridiculous but there's not a whole lot on offer in Wellington...

I only mention it because I so clearly remember talking to the one other tr00 Pumpkins fan and feeling so fucking disappointed by the name.

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:48 PM   #41
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I like dis song

one bazillion times better than anything on ZG and his vocals actually sound like Billy Corgan
Well I don't think anyone is disputing that.

But I think some of the Ogilala material is better than this. This song is fucking terrible.

 
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:46 AM   #42
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in 2006 i played the zwan CD one morning while my gf was at my apartment... she said it was great. she knew nothing of SP, zwan or corgan.

 
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:49 AM   #43
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Does she smoke dat hard?

 
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:38 AM   #44
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nope. she just found it joyful.

 
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:15 AM   #45
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She might want to check out Steven Curtis Chapman.

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:03 AM   #46
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The album is fucking awesome, ride a black swan and MARY STAR are incredible songs. Settle Down..Endless summer...broken heart..dam! Would do anything to see them.

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:23 AM   #47
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And I would do anything to unsee them.

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:25 AM   #48
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the only thing worse than Zwan is TFE with Linda SHitberry on keys

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:30 AM   #49
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Starla is a badass pick btw.



I'd still go with Soma tho.

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:36 AM   #50
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yeah it's a close call aright.

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:37 AM   #51
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Watch this you noobs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQEZx9PqSo

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:41 AM   #52
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I saw them play that album brosephus.

msots killed. everything else sucked.

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:47 AM   #53
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derivative blathering. sounds like a bunch of teenagers in a garage

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:01 PM   #54
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christian rock record followed up with a conspiracy theory record

 
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