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Old 03-09-2010, 05:18 PM   #31
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I liked Ginger and Lisa. This SP tour is looking a lot more lame. How are they going to be ready to tour for April? I wouldn't be surprised if this is Jeff's last tour either. Truthfully, I don't think I want anymore of my money going towards Billy.

It would be nice if this insider just gave us the dirt on Billy. It would make things a lot more interesting and we would never have a shortage of things to make fun of Billy for.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:45 PM   #32
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I liked Ginger and Lisa. This SP tour is looking a lot more lame. How are they going to be ready to tour for April? I wouldn't be surprised if this is Jeff's last tour either. Truthfully, I don't think I want anymore of my money going towards Billy.

It would be nice if this insider just gave us the dirt on Billy. It would make things a lot more interesting and we would never have a shortage of things to make fun of Billy for.
LOL we've truly hit a low point when people are upset Ginger is not on the tour.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:56 PM   #33
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Ginger was a terrible bassist. I never enjoyed her contribution in the live shows. I couldn't care less about Lisa.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:57 PM   #34
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how dare you talk about miss lisa like that.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:09 PM   #35
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Cool story, bro.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:20 PM   #36
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uh this will probably be a shit show. i mean you have to teach new people songs again. i wonder if he is still refusing to play any old material

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:30 PM   #37
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NO ONE CARE

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:31 PM   #38
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ginger was a trick bitch

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:32 PM   #39
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she probably read the RS article and said 'fuck this it's not worth working for this asshole anymore. i gots to protect my child from him!!'

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:51 PM   #40
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she probably read the RS article and said 'fuck this it's not worth working for this asshole anymore. i gots to protect my child from him!!'
This.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:11 PM   #41
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LOL we've truly hit a low point when people are upset Ginger is not on the tour.
True. I wouldn't mind so much if I thought Billy would replace them with some other decent people. Unfortunately, he is doing open auditions again, last time he did that we got mike byrnes. I don't think Billy's cheapness is a secret so it is unlikely that he will hire anyone worthwhile, certainly not Eric Avery (I believe he also said that he was not offered enough money).

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:14 PM   #42
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Seriously if he hires another female bass player the guy has mental issues.
T&A is a key part of any SP show. With Corgan going on 5 minute noise solos you need a chick wearing something sexy to oggle to kill the time.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:14 PM   #43
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Also Lisa was too hot to get bounced.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:19 PM   #44
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uh this will probably be a shit show. i mean you have to teach new people songs again. i wonder if he is still refusing to play any old material
well if he sticks to this threat it makes integrating new members a lot easier as they don't have to learn the 10 different versions of Blue Skies and Heavy Metal Machine for starters.

i guess with Ginger "officially" quitting the band this meant she was an "official" member after all. good to know.

it looks like lisa was just the touring keyboardist a la Garson. i guess linda doesn't cut it or billy would've just handed her the gig. i wonder if Rick Wakeman will audition - that would be funny as fuck.

as for jeff no mention is made, but how can he be a full band member if he records zero material? baffling.

i would say there is exactly no chance of Avery auditioning again after the last debacle.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:35 PM   #45
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as for jeff no mention is made, but how can he be a full band member if he records zero material? baffling.
a "full band member" is required to be part of the recording process? why not the writing process?

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:31 PM   #46
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as for jeff no mention is made, but how can he be a full band member if he records zero material? baffling.
Yet, ask that question about the majority of James Iha's tenure, and...well, you know.

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i would say there is exactly no chance of Avery auditioning again after the last debacle.
Just think, if even two days ago I would have told you that the bassist for SP and the bassist for Jane's Addiction will leave their band, one for completely legitimate and understandable reasons, and one due to some vague, nondescript conflict, and asked you to pick which one would be which, everyone would have immediately assumed Ginger would be the one leaving under the cloud.

I think all things considered, Billy did much better to hire Ginger than Avery. She was a competent bassist (you'd have to be to keep up with Jimmy for two years on things like those 40 minute Gossamers and the like), and although she's leaving now, it's at least on good terms. Can you imagine if Avery pulled out of SP the way he pulled out of JA this week (and now of all times especially)? The last thing Billy needs around him right now is another ego.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:34 PM   #47
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Yet, ask that question about the majority of James Iha's tenure, and...well, you know.
he did quite a bit actually.. a hell of a lot more than corgan will let on these days. but you wouldn't know the difference anyway.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:37 PM   #48
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I think all things considered, Billy did much better to hire Ginger than Avery. She was a competent bassist (you'd have to be to keep up with Jimmy for two years on things like those 40 minute Gossamers and the like), and although she's leaving now, it's at least on good terms. Can you imagine if Avery pulled out of SP the way he pulled out of JA this week (and now of all times especially)? The last thing Billy needs around him right now is another ego.
Aren't you just assuming it is some ego driven reason? How could you possibly know whether Eric had legitimate reasons for leaving or not? Good terms or not. Maybe Ginger got tired of touring, maybe she wanted more money, who knows. It strikes me as odd that she would have told Billy only recently that she was no longer going to be part of the band when Billy had plans to tour in April, I would think it would be something you mention sooner.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:45 PM   #49
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eric avery joining sp would be like the dude from nickleback joining ac/dc

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:45 PM   #50
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whats MADM up to these days

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:47 PM   #51
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:49 PM   #52
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you really want MADM to lower her standards like that?

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:51 PM   #53
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The last thing Billy needs around him right now is another ego.
Sho nuff, his own is enough for the entire band.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:52 PM   #54
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The news is just better and better.

 
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:58 PM   #55
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Hopefully something that will occupy her while these bassist auditions are going on.

Sorry, never was a fan of her tenure as bassist...but admittedly that may be more of a product of my dislike of the 2000 live shows (and the arrangements of many of the songs on those tours) than her playing so much.

 
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:01 AM   #56
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Aren't you just assuming it is some ego driven reason? How could you possibly know whether Eric had legitimate reasons for leaving or not?
It just sounded awfully similar to the things said when a certain drummer left a certain other band last year under what have recently been revealed to be less than pleasant terms.

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Old 03-10-2010, 12:01 AM   #57
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Hopefully something that will occupy her while these bassist auditions are going on.

Sorry, never was a fan of her tenure as bassist...but admittedly that may be more of a product of my dislike of the 2000 live shows (and the arrangements of many of the songs on those tours) than her playing so much.
So basically, you're a stupid fuck. Gotcha.

 
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:03 AM   #58
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Hey, a few posts above we just found the SP replacement, easily:



"What if this 30 minute Set the Controls doesn't survive? It's worth a lot to me."

 
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:17 AM   #59
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isn't melissa in the new version of hole

 
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:18 AM   #60
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Also Lisa was too hot to get bounced.
She was already committed to touring with Adam Lambert.

 
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