maybe it's because I'm a little bit drunk

Gossamer · 03-11-2010, 11:02 PM

but thefutureembrace is not sounding so bad right now

at least billy was making some interesting sounds in that era

Araneae · 03-11-2010, 11:08 PM

I admit it. I like the album. You can hear a lot of good new wave and synthpop influences in that one.

samuel redman · 03-11-2010, 11:21 PM

probably my favorite album of the past 10 years

Reyngel · 03-12-2010, 12:13 AM

His best shit since 2000, for sure. It's not ridiculously pretentious or shallow. It's just great creativity. And on a good system, it sounds awesome.

paranoid · 03-12-2010, 12:25 AM

the album has half good songs and half bad ones.

killtrocity · 03-12-2010, 12:33 AM

mina loy is great. some good stuff on TFE

dustrock · 03-12-2010, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

the album has half good songs and half bad ones.

redbull · 03-12-2010, 12:41 AM

good songs:
Mina Loy
Camera Eye
To Love Somebody
A100
DIA
Now and Then
Walking Shade
Tilt

ok songs:
All Things Change
Sorrow
Pretty Pretty Star

utter fucking shit:
I'm Ready
Strayz

Caine Walker · 03-12-2010, 12:43 AM

one or two good songs, the rest are either pretty meh or just awful. i don't know why people defend this album.

TuralyonW3 · 03-12-2010, 01:07 AM

he was at least making something that was a little exciting.

redbreegull · 03-12-2010, 01:26 AM

I pretty much agree with redbull's categorization but I think I'm Ready is a lot worse than any of the others. It's not a great record by any stretch, but it's still interesting and it has some good songs on it. A lot better than the vast bulk of anything he has done since.

Pop Tart · 03-12-2010, 01:29 AM

I love Tilt. It's cute. The one thing I didn't like about that CD is the feedback or distortion or whatever it is on some of the songs. Maybe I'm not musically sophisticated enough to appreciate it because it just annoyed me. I think TFE deserved more kudos than it got at the time.

Also, yay to drunkenness.

paranoid · 03-12-2010, 01:31 AM

i loved the guitar tone on that record, as well as the playing.

redbreegull · 03-12-2010, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

i loved the guitar tone on that record, as well as the playing.

I really like the super-overdriven, compressed tone as well. The style is pretty outside the box for Billy.

Dogfighter28 · 03-12-2010, 01:43 AM

I <3 All Things Change, Walking Shade... and that's about it. There's some other okay ones but those are the only ones I care about.

DiscoJon · 03-12-2010, 01:45 AM

I still don't understand why he left "Tilt" off of TFE.

Probably the same reason Riverview, Friends as Lovers and A New Poetry were left off of the Zwan album.

applepwnz · 03-12-2010, 02:22 AM

yay to drunkeness

but I seriously never enjoyed this album, I deleted it from my iTunes pretty soon after I downloaded it.

Pop Tart · 03-12-2010, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by applepwnz

I deleted it from my iTunes pretty soon after I downloaded it.

I did that with Zeitgeist.

T&T · 03-12-2010, 04:16 AM

fuck drunk
funk druk
maybe it's because i'm a a little drunk
but i don't think gossamer was as good as the other version. silverfuck.

killtrocity · 03-12-2010, 04:34 AM

at least TFE was real, everything since zeitgeist has been bs

redbull · 03-12-2010, 05:49 AM

you know what was an awesome song? mini

lambert · 03-12-2010, 06:33 AM

I'm Ready is my least favorite of any Billy songs, Pumpkins or solo. It makes me physically angry and reminds me of Spongebob Squarepants at the same time.

Other than that, I still give the album a spin when I'm driving late at night. I can dig it.

Shallowed · 03-12-2010, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbull

you know what was an awesome song? mini

You know what an awesome penis size to have is? Mini.

Springbridge · 03-12-2010, 09:51 AM

I loooved TFE. I am sad he didn't play Bit5 in Toronto, I love that song and it also has my favorite light show on the LED background screens.

Enzo Gorlami · 03-12-2010, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbull

good songs:
Mina Loy
Camera Eye
To Love Somebody
A100
DIA
Now and Then
Walking Shade
Tilt

ok songs:
All Things Change
Sorrow
Pretty Pretty Star

utter fucking shit:
I'm Ready
Strayz

100% correct

CourtJaster · 03-12-2010, 10:22 AM

WTF? I thought 90% of TFE sucked a dick.

cork_soaker · 03-12-2010, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I really like the super-overdriven, compressed tone as well. The style is pretty outside the box for Billy.

Caine Walker · 03-12-2010, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nihilist

gargling smegma (my favorite new word).

D:

Pop Tart · 03-12-2010, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockLobster

I like TFE more than MSOTS and anything billy has done with SP2. I wish he would be more experimental with his song writing again.

His experimental stuff can be good, but it can also be so off the wire that only he's able to appreciate it. That's why I stopped buying SP music - I didn't like it, and I felt like I was paying for Billy to play around and find himself (and he's got more money than me).

AveryLoren · 03-12-2010, 01:45 PM

Is there any TFE Era compilation? I haven't heard Mini or the Bits

03-11-2010, 11:02 PM	#1
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03-11-2010, 11:08 PM	#2
Araneae Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,887	I admit it. I like the album. You can hear a lot of good new wave and synthpop influences in that one.

03-11-2010, 11:21 PM	#3
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03-12-2010, 12:13 AM	#4
Reyngel Apocalyptic Poster Location: Seattle Posts: 3,682	His best shit since 2000, for sure. It's not ridiculously pretentious or shallow. It's just great creativity. And on a good system, it sounds awesome.

03-12-2010, 12:25 AM	#5
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	the album has half good songs and half bad ones.

03-12-2010, 12:33 AM	#6
killtrocity Saturday Night Goth Location: POLLOS Posts: 9,207	mina loy is great. some good stuff on TFE

03-12-2010, 12:41 AM	#8
redbull Immortal Location: like liutenant dan i'm rollin' Posts: 21,016	good songs: Mina Loy Camera Eye To Love Somebody A100 DIA Now and Then Walking Shade Tilt ok songs: All Things Change Sorrow Pretty Pretty Star utter fucking shit: I'm Ready Strayz

03-12-2010, 12:43 AM	#9
Caine Walker Braindead Posts: 15,482	one or two good songs, the rest are either pretty meh or just awful. i don't know why people defend this album.

03-12-2010, 01:07 AM	#10
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,684	he was at least making something that was a little exciting.

03-12-2010, 01:26 AM	#11
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	I pretty much agree with redbull's categorization but I think I'm Ready is a lot worse than any of the others. It's not a great record by any stretch, but it's still interesting and it has some good songs on it. A lot better than the vast bulk of anything he has done since.

03-12-2010, 01:29 AM	#12
Pop Tart Demi-God Posts: 420	I love Tilt. It's cute. The one thing I didn't like about that CD is the feedback or distortion or whatever it is on some of the songs. Maybe I'm not musically sophisticated enough to appreciate it because it just annoyed me. I think TFE deserved more kudos than it got at the time. Also, yay to drunkenness.

03-12-2010, 01:31 AM	#13
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	i loved the guitar tone on that record, as well as the playing.

03-12-2010, 01:43 AM	#15
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,480	I <3 All Things Change, Walking Shade... and that's about it. There's some other okay ones but those are the only ones I care about.

03-12-2010, 01:45 AM	#16
DiscoJon Apocalyptic Poster Location: LOOOOOOOL Posts: 1,004	I still don't understand why he left "Tilt" off of TFE. Probably the same reason Riverview, Friends as Lovers and A New Poetry were left off of the Zwan album.

03-12-2010, 02:22 AM	#17
applepwnz Ownz Posts: 729	yay to drunkeness but I seriously never enjoyed this album, I deleted it from my iTunes pretty soon after I downloaded it.

03-12-2010, 04:16 AM	#19
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,677	fuck drunk funk druk maybe it's because i'm a a little drunk but i don't think gossamer was as good as the other version. silverfuck.

03-12-2010, 04:34 AM	#20
killtrocity Saturday Night Goth Location: POLLOS Posts: 9,207	at least TFE was real, everything since zeitgeist has been bs

03-12-2010, 05:49 AM	#21
redbull Immortal Location: like liutenant dan i'm rollin' Posts: 21,016	you know what was an awesome song? mini

03-12-2010, 06:33 AM	#22
lambert Demi-God Posts: 273	I'm Ready is my least favorite of any Billy songs, Pumpkins or solo. It makes me physically angry and reminds me of Spongebob Squarepants at the same time. Other than that, I still give the album a spin when I'm driving late at night. I can dig it.

03-12-2010, 09:51 AM	#24
Springbridge Ownz Posts: 990	I loooved TFE. I am sad he didn't play Bit5 in Toronto, I love that song and it also has my favorite light show on the LED background screens.

03-12-2010, 10:22 AM	#26
CourtJaster Oblivious Virgin Location: the cargo hold Posts: 31	WTF? I thought 90% of TFE sucked a dick.

03-12-2010, 01:45 PM	#30
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,901	Is there any TFE Era compilation? I haven't heard Mini or the Bits