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Old 11-12-2018, 01:46 PM   #661
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Knights of MaltaMTaE was a better album despite the flack it gets here, that album was good start to finish

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:52 PM   #662
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I've said before if you plopped Tarantula on Oceania it'd instantly be a much more memorable album,.
How? Tarantula is shit.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:12 PM   #663
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really Fool? You don´t like sympathy?
I dig it!

But seek and alienation, besides solara of course are skippers. sry , but worse than most of teargarden.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:15 PM   #664
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really Fool? You don´t like sympathy?
I dig it!

But seek and alienation, besides solara of course are skippers. sry , but worse than most of teargarden.
What are you counting in "most of Teargarden"?

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:15 PM   #665
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Well, I just listened to Monuments, and this is def a far more interesting listening experience. What a seriously flawed album MTAE is.

Now playing Oceania. Anyone like that album more than Shiny and oh so tedious album title?

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:26 PM   #666
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I do. I actually like Oceania a lot.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:27 PM   #667
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Well, I just listened to Monuments, and this is def a far more interesting listening experience. What a seriously flawed album MTAE is.

Now playing Oceania. Anyone like that album more than Shiny and oh so tedious album title?
I like Oceania. It’s got some bad spots but I think it’s a far better album than the largely generic Zeitgeist or the embarrassing Monuments or Teargarden. Shitty and Oh So Meh might be worse than all of them though.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:31 PM   #668
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I have only listened to Oceania once, quite recently, and it was better than expected but I have no desire to play it again. I've never felt "ooh I need another Oceania fix".

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:33 PM   #669
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Kahlo, you must be a masochist.

jk, I play it from time to time, it's real short, hence those 3/5 reviews Billy fumed about.

Oceania's OK tbh. If Jimmy played on it it'd actually be a pretty good album.

Shiny is better than Monuments, not by much though. Rubin must be more of a fuck than I thought if he insisted the world needed to hear Seek. Silvery is easily the best song on the album. Marchin On gives me a Cash Car Star vibe, only not as good. With Sympathy is OK, seems like one of those songs that is building up and then just finishes. Travels sounds like an Oceania song, maybe a bit of TFE in it, not bad. Alienation alienated me. It's forgettable, the only memorable thing is the solo,which isn't good enough to make it a decent song. Solara is just GLOW. OK nowhere ear that bad, just trying too hard imo. KoM is also just OK. Not seeing much if any difference James and Jimmy have made here.

Overall: fuck Rubin off. Stop thinking you are a good singer now. Mix the vocals lower. Write non-shitty lyrics.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:34 PM   #670
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Oceania is decent. SosB is the weakest SP release ever. It’s interesting that Monuments gets pissed on when there isn’t one song on SosB as good as something like Tiberius or One and All.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:34 PM   #671
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Oceania is such a stupid word to say.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:40 PM   #672
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Oceania is decent. SosB is the weakest SP release ever. It’s interesting that Monuments gets pissed on when there isn’t one song on SosB as good as something like Tiberius or One and All.
Tiberius is the only genuinely good song on there tbh. One and All I like as the old, discarded riff propels it, the lyrics are kind of phoned in. Drum + Fife is OK. Monuments would be pretty good without the scratch lyrics that somehow made it onto the finished track plus the "lovahhh" crap. The rest are meh or shit (hello Anti-hero).

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:45 PM   #673
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I quite like Anaise

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:46 PM   #674
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Zeitgeist>Shiny>Oceania>horse patties>Teargarden>Rotting dogshit>Monuments

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:17 PM   #675
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What are you counting in "most of Teargarden"?
Tom tom, sin for a son, stitch, cottonwood, spangled, teargarden theme, freak

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:30 PM   #676
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those spirits in the sky shows were money.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:46 PM   #677
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What are the secrets of the Irishmen?

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:47 PM   #678
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Sectarianism mainly.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 05:31 PM   #679
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The choir is the best part of the 1st track. The intro is awful and the woos are pretty cringeworthy.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 05:32 PM   #680
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I mean how am I supposed to Monte Zwan dance to this?

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 05:51 PM   #681
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Aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiien Naaaaaaaaaatioooooooon

Song wouldn't be so bad if not for the warbling.

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Old 11-12-2018, 06:35 PM   #682
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I mean how am I supposed to Monte Zwan dance to this?
...there's a Monte Zwan dance?

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:45 PM   #683
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...there's a Monte Zwan dance?
go away

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:12 PM   #684
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But Shiny was never supposed to be an album to start with
I'm always amazed by the rationalizations people make in order to defend these guys.

It's the new Smashing Pumpkins reunion album. It doen't matter what it was originally intended to be. The plans changed and they decided to make an album. I also find it funny that people rationalize "well they only recorded for a couple of months"... Ughh yeah? That's probably longer than most bands take to go into the studio to record a record. A lot of bands go in for a few weeks to knock one out.

All of the excuses I'm reading are pretty much trying to portray this as a rushed, slapped together project, but it's all a total conjecture... Even if it were true, then it's only on the band to blame for half-assing it.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:10 PM   #685
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Fuzzy you’re such an idiot shut up.

With sympathy is really growing on me. I now give it the same rating I gave SS.. 10/10. Who said it was stellar tier? They’re right.

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Old 11-12-2018, 08:30 PM   #686
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lol 10/10 eh?

Listen to more music, bro.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:40 PM   #687
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I bet I listen to waaaaay, waaaay more music than you do. Your basic, misinformed understanding of music is solid proof of that.

You can quit hitting me with basic tier netphoria insults, it’s not a good look for you.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:47 PM   #688
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I’d go as far to say that you probably only listen in depth to one genre of music, and probably have a very surface level idea of what other genres are. Like “yo bro kind of blue is a cool jazz record.” That’s if you’ve ever even listened to jazz.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:48 PM   #689
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With sympathy is really growing on me. I now give it the same rating I gave SS.. 10/10. Who said it was stellar tier? They’re right.
Middle Goats and With Sympathy are 2 of the tracks I like best on this album, but I am still curious about your 10/10 - you find both songs as good as the best Songs from SD & MCIS?

 
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Middle Goats and With Sympathy are 2 of the tracks I like best on this album, but I am still curious about your 10/10 - you find both songs as good as the best Songs from SD & MCIS?
No I’m trolling, but I do think they’re as good as or better than the post 2000 stuff.. like good as gossamer.

SD and MCIS best songs are untouchable and I think at this point assume they don’t count when rating/comparing new material.

 
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