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Old 09-14-2017, 12:07 AM   #301
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It just feels like he gives half a shit in this song I think. That's a low bar, yeah, but one he hasn't met for a while
it's "song for a son" minus half of the half he put into that one.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:10 AM   #302
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just realized that i still like being beige

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:12 AM   #303
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:42 AM   #304
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Further update:

Figured out that the chorus sounds like Desire.
Like the instrumentation, reminds me of the Zwan hideout shows.
It's an ok song, that "lovers" line is lazy and shit.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:51 AM   #305
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Ur mom gives me a woody

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:06 AM   #306
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Ur mom gives me a woody
And I gave ur mom my woody.

circle of life.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:13 PM   #307
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ok this song is not great but after however long it's been i'm gonna just come out and say it... i like it. well i like the verses, mostly. it's definitely better than monuments
No way. This song is preachy bullshit.

I actually don't get all the hate regarding Monuments. I mean it was nothing special, but it was the best release since Zeitgeist. Definitely a treat to listen to after all the disposable Teargarden crud.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:54 PM   #308
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No way. This song is preachy bullshit.

I actually don't get all the hate regarding Monuments. I mean it was nothing special, but it was the best release since Zeitgeist. Definitely a treat to listen to after all the disposable Teargarden crud.
"best release since Zeitgeist" is such an incredibly low bar

It's true it is better than the really bad 2009/2010 era Teargarden stuff, but other than that it's the worst collection of material Corgan has ever released

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:54 PM   #309
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although I doubt not that Ogilala will soon outpace it

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:26 AM   #310
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I don't know guys, I'm digging this new shit. I think its even better than Gish.

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:10 AM   #311
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If I can be honest, the chord structure and vocal melody of Aeronaut is classic Billy.

Seriously, I don't think this has ever changed. The only thing that has changed (and horribly so) are the lyrics, vocal performance, instruments used, and horrible mix. Otherwise, this really doesn't sound too detached from, say, Disarm.

That's not to say the "horrible" things don't kill the song, they certainly do.

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:06 PM   #312
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There's just no meat and potatoes to Billy's music anymore. Even if you think Aeronaut has the potential as a cool idea, it really just sounds like a demo.

I get that sometimes the minimalist approach has worked for Billy, but it's really become the norm now. Even a song like One and All which I like doesn't really have anything to sink your teeth into.

I think that's where Iha came into importance. Sure, he didn't write the songs, but he helped add the "nuts and sprinkles" on top for lack of a better metaphor. haha

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Old 09-15-2017, 10:10 PM   #313
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At this point I don't know why Billy doesn't hook up with Butch Vig again. A new album with Jimmy on drums and produced by Butch Vig would undoubtedly create a lot of hype and draw a lot of attention to the album... Something that Billy hasn't been able to muster up since Zeitgeist. And really, the production has been one of the main issues hampering his material, so why not pair up with the guy who was able to work wonders with him?

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:12 PM   #314
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You have to wonder what kinda people Billy has managing him these days. This shit isn't rocket science but they keep on floundering around, unable to create much public interest in any of the new material.

Though washed up, he's still a house-hold name for crying out loud. The lack of success he's had with attaining any semblance of relevancy really is a lack of direction from useless management as much as it is Billys declining output.

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:23 PM   #315
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If I can be honest, the chord structure and vocal melody of Aeronaut is classic Billy.

Seriously, I don't think this has ever changed. The only thing that has changed (and horribly so) are the lyrics, vocal performance, instruments used, and horrible mix. Otherwise, this really doesn't sound too detached from, say, Disarm.

That's not to say the "horrible" things don't kill the song, they certainly do.
the only thing that sucks are the lyrics and the ending where he keeps repeating the same line otherwise it's spaceboy for the new millennium

 
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:45 AM   #316
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Yeah, there's more repetition now than there used to be as well.

Also, you have to ask if Butch Vig would be "up" to working with Billy again.

 
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Old 09-16-2017, 11:24 AM   #317
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the best thing about early pumpkins is that some songs would just keep going in different directions and not repeat stuff (or only repeat twice)

ruby, for example

 
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:10 PM   #318
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Oh a new single, cool.

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This makes widow wake my mind seem like a hit single.

 
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:19 AM   #319
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the best thing about early pumpkins is that some songs would just keep going in different directions and not repeat stuff (or only repeat twice)

ruby, for example
Hummer most of all.

 
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This is a GREAT Cover

https://youtu.be/5SxHtWI8AZQ

 
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