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John Lennon 5 31.25%
Paul McCartney 3 18.75%
George Harrison 6 37.50%
Ringo LOL. Sorry couldn't finish that, I meant Ringo Starr 2 12.50%
I actually prefer Papa Roach. 1 6.25%
obscured_1979*~JellyBellyCorgan~*33 2 12.50%
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:01 PM   #121
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i wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan but i think revolver and the white album are easily the top 2 and sgt peppers is great but overrated.
Sgt Pepper is also overrated to me. I get that it was just out of left fucking field at the time but 50+ years later I guess I am more interested in the songs themselves and The White Album has more A+ level songs IMO

my all time fav is probably Abbey Road or the White Album. On any given day I could have a different favorite Beatles album though. Beatles for Sale is REALLY underrated and I probably like Rubber Soul more than Revolver

 
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:14 PM   #122
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Finally someone said rubber soul

It is my fave

 
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:25 PM   #123
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Finally someone said rubber soul

It is my fave
I'm looking through you
where did you go?

 
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:27 PM   #124
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pretty sure they started smoking weed around Rubber Soul. I mean just LOOK at the cover



 
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:35 PM   #125
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They were smoking pot by at least Help. Maybe Beatles For Sale

 
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:53 PM   #126
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For sure help. Read an interview in which John said he wrote help because he was waking and baking and he needed help.

 
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:37 PM   #127
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our people tell the tale of how in 1964 Bob Dylan rolled a joint and handed it to Ringo, and not realizing he was supposed to pass it, Ringo smoked the whole thing himself. Dylan then rolled four more joints for the rest of them and a night of hilarity ensued.

 
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:09 AM   #128
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lol yea that sounds about right for the person who wrote "Octopus's Garden"

 
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:15 AM   #129
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Ringo da best.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:59 AM   #130
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In the let it be film they show ringo bashfully showing george octopuses garden on piano. george sits down and transforms the song for him. it's hilarious.

ringo looked fucked up during that era. dark circles around his eyes and shit.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:56 AM   #131
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when i find myself in times of trouble
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:17 AM   #132
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Pissing words of wisdom
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:43 AM   #133
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I know it's not fashionable anymore and that he wasn't as good a songwriter as Paul, and was a pretty shitty human being unlike George but I can't help being a John fan. Maybe because he wasn't the best, and he was shitty and broken.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:06 AM   #134
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lol, why was John Lennon a "shitty human being"?

Also, I would say that over 2/3 of Beatles fans and music fans in general would say that John was the greatest Beatle. It's not some sort of alternative thing to be a fan of John Lennon and his songs.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:32 AM   #135
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Lennon has fallen out of fashion. Hot Beatle pick among the hipster kids these days: Billy Shears

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:57 AM   #136
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:22 AM   #137
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lol, why was John Lennon a "shitty human being"?
I dunno, let's start with being a wifebeater and a drugged up absentee father and go from there

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:58 PM   #139
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lol, why was John Lennon a "shitty human being"?
we can start with him pissing off a balcony onto the heads of some nuns walking down the street and work our way out from there

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Also, I would say that over 2/3 of Beatles fans and music fans in general would say that John was the greatest Beatle. It's not some sort of alternative thing to be a fan of John Lennon and his songs.
This is just a guess, but I think "music fans in general" might favor John, but people who are actually Beatles fans are probably split pretty evenly between John and Paul, especially among older people. Remember that Lennon didn't achieve this kind of legendary peace man cultural figure status until after the Beatles

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:07 PM   #140
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Remember that Lennon didn't achieve this kind of legendary peace man cultural figure status until after the Beatles
Yeah because like All You Need is Love and Give Peace a Chance were Paul songs amirite

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:05 PM   #141
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Yeah Lennon was on the peace trip long before the end of the Beatles.

But back to the point about Lennon being the de facto "best Beatle", during the height of their fame in the early 60's when Beatlemania was going on, John was the primary songwriter and widely perceived as the leader. Middle period Beatles was when Paul became the real creative force but by then public perception was entrenched and people still saw it as John 1, Paul 2. The popular story that John told was that the number one song people would come up to him on the street to thank him for was Yesterday.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:19 PM   #142
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It's a testament to the melody that once you've heard a good Paul song it's basically imprinted onto your mind forever

But it's not the most vital music to me, I'm not transcending space and time like with Tomorrow Never Knows

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:51 PM   #143
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Ironically, it was Paul's loops on tomorrow never knows that made the track what it was. He was the first to experiment in that vein and had all these loops that he had made and brought them in. The seagull sound is actually Paul laughing.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:50 PM   #144
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It contributed sure but the song itself and concept was written by Lennon by himself who was interested in ego death

 
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The lyrics are lifted from Leary and the song is one chord. Don't get me wrong it's brilliant, but it's the songcraft generated by the loops (especially the hypnotic drum and bass loop) that makes it so more than the lyrics. That's McCartney's contribution and Martin's direction that m akes it great as much or more than Lennon's basic song.

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:35 PM   #146
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i know it's ironic coming from me as i started this thread, but it's null to try to figure out which of the two (John and Paul) made a particular song really great, because it's simply the juxtaposing of the two of them that made those songs be so good. their joint decision making and crafting. they enhanced each other and played perfectly into each others' strengths and weaknesses as musicians and writers.

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Old 09-14-2017, 12:04 AM   #147
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i know it's ironic coming from me as i started this thread, but it's null to try to figure out which of the two (John and Paul) made a particular song really great, because it's simply the juxtaposing of the two of them that made those songs be so good. their joint decision making and crafting. they enhanced each other and played perfectly into each others' strengths and weaknesses as musicians and writers.
cool reading this, as i came in just to comment that i think both dudes (john and paul) were two opposite sides of the songwriting craft.

what's cool about george is that he was able to color it all in and blend it together.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:55 AM   #148
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i know it's ironic coming from me as i started this thread, but it's null to try to figure out which of the two (John and Paul) made a particular song really great, because it's simply the juxtaposing of the two of them that made those songs be so good. their joint decision making and crafting. they enhanced each other and played perfectly into each others' strengths and weaknesses as musicians and writers.
I agree with this completely. They were better than the sum of their parts and were better when they worked together. Which is why...

The White Album is not as good as other albums. It was a collection of individual songs written without much input from the others. I agree with George Martin that they should have pared it down to a single album and concentrated on the best 12-13 songs. Can you imagine how good that would have been? The fun thing for me is choosing those songs.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:33 AM   #149
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naaaaw man what are you talking about, the White Album is so great exactly because of its sprawling diversity. in fact i love its 'snapshot in time' charm and how it depicts an enormously talented band pulling apart. john and paul delivered such beautiful individual songs that made each of their individual voices become more pronounced, after the whole world got to know them through their collaborative efforts. that's not to say all the songs are brilliant but the weak ones are kinda part of the trip. i don't know about you but i love "why don't we do it in the road"

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:48 AM   #150
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I agree with this completely. They were better than the sum of their parts and were better when they worked together. Which is why...

The White Album is not as good as other albums. It was a collection of individual songs written without much input from the others. I agree with George Martin that they should have pared it down to a single album and concentrated on the best 12-13 songs. Can you imagine how good that would have been? The fun thing for me is choosing those songs.
With you on this White Album is at the bottom for me

It's still real good though I guess

 
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