Pitchers worse than John Burkett

Orenthal James · 10-05-2003, 10:37 PM

I, for one, cannot think of any.

sppunk · 10-06-2003, 01:07 AM

The entire Texas Ranger pitching staff. That 1ncludes all farm clubs, current MLB roster, and previous rosters, sans Nolan Ryan.

lawson · 10-06-2003, 01:33 AM

jose canseco

his career never recovered from his one inning of pitching

sppunk · 10-06-2003, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by PhantomFM
jose canseco

his career never recovered from his one inning of pitching

Read: Entire Texas Ranger pitching staff.

Axis of Action · 10-06-2003, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by sppunk

Read: Entire Texas Ranger pitching staff.

past & present then. he was talking '93 rangers.

*edit* you said previous rosters didn't you. I win for paying attention.

Orenthal James · 10-06-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by sppunk
The entire Texas Ranger pitching staff. That 1ncludes all farm clubs, current MLB roster, and previous rosters, sans Nolan Ryan.

Ryan is overrated out the ass.

Ensoul · 10-06-2003, 01:56 PM

Juan Acevedo

10-06-2003, 01:57 PM

Rich Ankiel

lawson · 10-06-2003, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Orenthal James

Ryan is overrated out the ass.

uhhh. how can you be overrated when you're the all time strikeout leader.

sppunk · 10-06-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by PhantomFM

uhhh. how can you be overrated when you're the all time strikeout leader.

Not to mention the all-time no-hitter leader.

10-06-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by sppunk

Not to mention the all-time no-hitter leader.

Not to mention the all-time walk leader.

Not to mention he lost 294 games.

Ryan's one of the top 25 pitchers of all-time. At best.

Nimrod's Son · 10-06-2003, 02:38 PM

Jeff Weaver.

10-06-2003, 02:50 PM

Won/Loss is the most overrated stat a pitcher has.

sppunk · 10-06-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by The Ace of Aces

Not to mention the all-time walk leader.

Not to mention he lost 294 games.

Ryan's one of the top 25 pitchers of all-time. At best.

He lost 294 games, and pitched in how many seasons, on how many awful teams?

That's what I thought. Who needs control when you can throw 101 mph on a consistant basis for 9 innings.

Ryan's in the top 15, but not in the top 10.

10-06-2003, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
Won/Loss is the most overrated stat a pitcher has.

True but that seems to be the main thing pitchers are remembered for and rewarded for.

Ryan played on some ass teams but the Lastros weren't that bad during Ryan's decade in Houston. And the Rangers and Angels were mediocre, not terrible when he was there.

For what it's worth, Roger Clemens won 17 games this year at the age of 41. Nolan Ryan didn't win more than 15 games in a season after the age of 30.

Orenthal James · 10-06-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by sppunk

He lost 294 games, and pitched in how many seasons, on how many awful teams?

That's what I thought. Who needs control when you can throw 101 mph on a consistant basis for 9 innings.

Ryan's in the top 15, but not in the top 10.

Anytime anyone in baseball rates pitchers, Ryan isnt anywhere close to the top fifteen, cause he wasnt as good as everyone thought he was.

Nimrod's Son · 10-06-2003, 03:52 PM

Ryan could donimate, but especially in the first half of his career, he would lack control and lose games because of it.

Ryan has the strikeout record, but he also walked more people than anyone in major league history.

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10-06-2003, 01:07 AM	#2
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,109	The entire Texas Ranger pitching staff. That 1ncludes all farm clubs, current MLB roster, and previous rosters, sans Nolan Ryan.

10-06-2003, 01:33 AM	#3
lawson Apocalyptic Poster Location: raleigh Posts: 4,174	jose canseco his career never recovered from his one inning of pitching

10-06-2003, 01:56 PM	#7
Ensoul Apocalyptic Poster Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,244	Juan Acevedo

10-06-2003, 02:38 PM	#12
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,975	Jeff Weaver.

10-06-2003, 02:50 PM	#13
Mr. Rhinoceros Posts: n/a	Won/Loss is the most overrated stat a pitcher has.

10-06-2003, 03:52 PM	#17
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,975	Ryan could donimate, but especially in the first half of his career, he would lack control and lose games because of it. Ryan has the strikeout record, but he also walked more people than anyone in major league history.