If you identify yourself with a religious organization

[Rider]

Originally Posted by slunken

that sounds a lot like the army

Well that was one of the goals mass everyone together, keep things in order, give them a set of rules and something bullshit to rally around....

[yo soy el mejor]

you guys are so intolerant.

[Eulogy]

i'm not proposing legislation to ban religion. i tolerate religion up to the point where it starts to infringe on others' rights. this is not a complicated concept.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor

you guys are so intolerant.

What was one of the supposed truths about liberals? They always preach tolerance but they in fact only tolerate other liberals?

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

i'm not proposing legislation to ban religion. i tolerate religion up to the point where it starts to infringe on others' rights.

yeah, where in the thread did future boy infringe on your rights?

you're narrow-minded for a homosexual.

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

What was one of the supposed truths about liberals? They always preach tolerance but they in fact only tolerate other liberals?

haha. pretty much.

[Luke de Spa]

tolerance and criticism are not incompatible

[Luke de Spa]

e.g. i am quite happy for people to believe in sky fairies or whatever so long as it those beliefs don't lead them to make anyone else's lives worse. that's tolerance – i don't run around trying to force people to stop worshipping sky fairy thor or sky fairy yahweh or sky fairy krishna or whatever.

but that doesn't mean i have to pretend i don't think the idea of sky fairies is a bit silly, surely? or does simply speaking one's mind qualify as intolerance to you?

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor

you guys are so intolerant.

You are absolutely right. Other things I don't tolerate: bigotry, sexism, bad hair cuts.

[duovamp]

Nazis, racism.

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Luke de Spa

e.g. i am quite happy for people to believe in sky fairies or whatever so long as it those beliefs don't lead them to make anyone else's lives worse. that's tolerance – i don't run around trying to force people to stop worshipping sky fairy thor or sky fairy yahweh or sky fairy krishna or whatever.

but that doesn't mean i have to pretend i don't think the idea of sky fairies is a bit silly, surely? or does simply speaking one's mind qualify as intolerance to you?

i know what tolerance is. thanks for the example.

people like you and eulogy aren't merely speaking your minds when you ask direct, aggressive questions and mock religion and the people who do get something out of it. if anyone did the same with eulogy's sexual orientation you wouldn't say they were just speaking their minds.

[Luke de Spa]

when did i ask aggressive questions?

does labelling a concept "silly" qualify as mocking people? how?

[yo soy el mejor]

as respectable and noble you think your opinions are, intolerance is intolerance is intolerance.

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Luke de Spa

when did i ask aggressive questions?

i mentioned eulogy, too; he's more of the aggressive question guy, you do the mocking.

[Luke de Spa]

and no if people mocked eulogy's sexual orientation i wouldn't say they were just speaking their minds. sexual orientation is a) not a choice and b) not a factual claim about the nature of reality. it is simply not open to criticism in the way religion or any other belief system is

[Eulogy]

oh ******

[yo soy el mejor]

why are my beliefs that are not forced upon you your business?

[Luke de Spa]

they're not. but i will remind you're talking about them freely on the internet

[duovamp]

By the way ****** never mocks ANYBODY or ANYTHING EVER.

[duovamp]

How dare you people mock religious beliefs? Absolutely sickening.

[duovamp]

Now if you'll excuse me, I have virgins to sacrifice to my pond god before the first snow.

[yo soy el mejor]

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[Esty]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

i generally ask them why they support the institution and ask why they don't find a different and better church to support. i've never really gotten a solid answer. tradition, habit, and laziness probably. but those don't seem like good enough reasons.

You're opinion would probably mean more to them them if it wasn't coming from one of the biggest fucking hypocrites to ever walk the earth.

Just sayin.

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by Esty

You're opinion would probably mean more to them them if it wasn't coming from one of the biggest fucking hypocrites to ever walk the earth.

Just sayin.

Quoted for shitty English.

[Esty]

who cares

[vixnix]

You are what you hate. Your judgment of others is usually a masked judgment of yourself.

You hate that you are irrational, that you are superstitious, that you go about your daily life insecure because it's based on a lot of unchecked assumptions. So you pick out someone who you think has all those problems and act like getting them to address their own issues will act as a substitute for you addressing your own.

Whatever you are, religious or not, you can't escape being so woefully fucking human

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

if you think you have the keys to living with your god for all eternity, why not go ahead and explain what you think obtaining that entails?

personally speaking i dont think i do, and even if i did I'd tell you it's up to you to figure that out for yourself. I dont recruit. I have no desire to convince anyone of anything.

and yo soy does not speak for me as far as the criticism/intolerance thing that came up, not sure why im being mentioned in there

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

personally speaking i dont think i do, and even if i did I'd tell you it's up to you to figure that out for yourself. I dont recruit. I have no desire to convince anyone of anything.

but if you did (and for those that do... it's a pretty common element of religious belief, right?), shouldn't you at the very least share those thoughts when asked? it'd be a pretty huge dick move to withhold that information.

but you don't think that. which makes me more curious as to what you actually believe. but i guess you don't wanna talk about it.

[Eulogy]

it definitely stands out.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Is that all you could think about, when you visited places twice as old as your own country?

Where exactly is it even implied, that's he could think about.