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Old 05-27-2015, 10:02 PM   #91
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why are socialists against sanders? I don't understand

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:15 PM   #92
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why are socialists against sanders? I don't understand
I am not against sanders

Can any of you read

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:22 PM   #93
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Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to you in particular, but the organized socialist movements I know say he is a traitor or something. I still don't know why, I've read about him and I just can't find anything...

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:34 PM   #94
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i have major reservations about a clinton presidency... but i'm going to wait until the campaign really kicks off before throwing bricks. i think she deserves to make her case just as much as sanders or tom brady or whoever. yes she has a, um, very advantageous "shot" at pulling this off. but its not like the gop or TEH MEDIA will give her a pass on anything sensational (emails, the libya "crisis", shaaaady clinton foundation doings). this thing isn't exactly a coronation yet

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:36 PM   #95
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i'm going to volunteer for bernie and i'm going to try and collect people that i know who like bernie

reading about bernie he reminds me of me, if i wasn't such a fucking cynic

he never quit, and here he is. living up to eugene v debs. that dude ran for president from prison. he got put there by wilson because he thought world war i was stupid and said so. land of the free? who ever told you that is your enemy

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:38 PM   #96
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his hair is always fucked up and so is mine

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:50 PM   #97
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He is basically pro gun though

So he's not perfect.

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:18 PM   #98
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better vote for hillary then

 
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:19 PM   #99
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I've already said repeatedly that I will be voting for sanders. In a primary if it's not decided.

Again

Can you people read

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:14 AM   #100
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I can't. Wsup den.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:51 AM   #101
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He is basically pro gun though

So he's not perfect.
http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/...un_Control.htm

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Voted YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets.
Voted YES on allowing firearms in checked baggage on Amtrak trains.
Voted YES on prohibiting foreign & UN aid that restricts US gun ownership.
Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers.
Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.
Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.
I wouldn't exactly call myself "pro-gun" or "anti-gun", but I can't really argue with any of those votes.

Yet, I guess because of the two emboldened items there, the NRA gave him an F, which is a good sign.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:05 PM   #102
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I'm anti-gun so I find a lot of that problematic.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:06 PM   #103
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That first one only came after new town too. So.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:07 PM   #104
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And why would you give credence to nra grading

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:35 PM   #105
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Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to you in particular, but the organized socialist movements I know say he is a traitor or something. I still don't know why, I've read about him and I just can't find anything...
Sanders is a Democratic Socialist. The "socialists" you're talking about are the people who are still waiting for the workers revolution.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:03 PM   #106
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i.e. real socialists

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:06 PM   #107
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tell that to the real communists

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:07 PM   #108
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In college I was in the Democratic Socialists of America. I once had a member of the pro trotskyist Sparticist League threaten to kill me for being a traitor to my class. The only guy i was more afraid of on campus was the president of the college republicans who also once threatened to kill me.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:19 PM   #109
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:50 PM   #110
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Same reason a compass needle pointing north can be used to navigate southward.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:13 PM   #111
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lol duh

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:17 PM   #112
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socialists that are anti bernie are more often than not, academic bourgoise marxists. theyre the kind of people who made sure nobody organized occupy into a political movement. theyre the kind of ppl that would be disappointed a riot didnt break out but if one did theyd run home and hide under the bed. theyre marxists who accept no compromises beyond their masters diplomas and total participation in the consumer capitalist economy. and they usually have absolutely no self awareness whatsoever.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:20 PM   #113
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basically theyre the futureboys of marxism, ideological purity or NOTHING

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:29 PM   #114
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Same reason a compass needle pointing north can be used to navigate southward.
But you can identify why they gave him the F. And you can recognize that that is ridiculous. It doesn't absolve sanders of being on the wrong side of many gun votes.

It's a bad analogy. Which I've come to expect here. But still.

But if you don't care about gun control then I can see why you would be unmoved.

Do I need to add the "I would vote for sanders" sentence to every post in this thread still or do we all understand that now.

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:30 PM   #115
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I still haven't seen these anti sanders socialists. I'm not claiming they don't exist but can someone point me to one?

 
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:32 PM   #116
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i had a whole thing typed up and it went away. probably for the better. don't really need a gun control discussion in the election thread

 
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Old 05-29-2015, 01:34 AM   #117
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I still haven't seen these anti sanders socialists. I'm not claiming they don't exist but can someone point me to one?
what is it with you questioning absolutely every fucking thing that i say

 
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:12 AM   #118
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what is it with you questioning absolutely every fucking thing that i say
Oh get over yourself. You weren't even the one who brought it up. And I specicially said i wasn't questioning their existence and that I just was curious about an example. You can be so sensitive.

 
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:17 AM   #119
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I still haven't seen these anti sanders socialists.
that's cause there aren't any

 
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:43 AM   #120
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I doubt multiple people would just make this up.

 
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