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Old 10-06-2011, 08:32 AM   #31
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good setlist by a bad cover band
And yet you're still here checking in on them. LOL

Bloody excellent setlist judging by the songs we know. Can't wait for the UK tour now, hopefully the core songs of this set will remain. The haters probably saw this setlist and got really angry that it's a decent selection of songs. They were really hoping for a bad setlist

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:39 AM   #32
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i wish he'd drop the diezel amp rig though. doesn't sit right for me.
hasn't he been using bogners since 2007?

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:55 AM   #33
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Nice setlist - guess he was paying attention to the fan twitter requests

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:05 AM   #34
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setlist looks good, some really surprising stuff on there - especially from Gish and PI. nicely energised performance of Geek USA. the drumming sounds fine to me, but i'm no musician. billy's singing - well i hope this is what his delivery will be like on the album. is he using his fender signature guitar in this? sure looks like it. btw going off this clip he looks to have put quite a lot of weight on.

feeling upbeat about seeing them next month now.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:07 AM   #35
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ugh. are some of you for real? that version of geek sounds terrible! total slops fest.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:08 AM   #36
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and yes corgan is looking more plump than i've ever seen him.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:10 AM   #37
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ugh. are some of you for real? that version of geek sounds terrible! total slops fest.
Kind of hard to make a statement like that unless you were there or listening the official recording that they're selling after the show.

the youtube vids so far are pretty low quality recordings.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:17 AM   #38
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Kind of hard to make a statement like that unless you were there or listening the official recording that they're selling after the show.

the youtube vids so far are pretty low quality recordings.
no, not hard at all. it's pretty obvious everyone is playing their 'parts,' not moving beyond the parts and struggling to do so. can mike play the parts correctly? minus a large handful of fuck ups, yes, but he displays zero groove here and it sucks the finesse right out of the song. same with jeff. just shredding a bunch of nonsense and it's a headache. bill? i really can't decide on what i think of his performance of the tune, but he doesn't have a strong enough band backing him up, and he needs that to play at his best.

like redbull said, this would have been an exciting set list to see in 2007 or 2008. now it doesn't really matter because it's being played by a band that's not fit enough for these tunes.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:23 AM   #39
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go listen to rush or yngwie malmsteen then paranoid ya lil fag.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:24 AM   #40
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no, not hard at all. it's pretty obvious everyone is playing their 'parts,' not moving beyond the parts and struggling to do so. can mike play the parts correctly? minus a large handful of fuck ups, yes, but he displays zero groove here and it sucks the finesse right out of the song. same with jeff. just shredding a bunch of nonsense and it's a headache. bill? i really can't decide on what i think of his performance of the tune, but he doesn't have a strong enough band backing him up, and he needs that to play at his best.

like redbull said, this would have been an exciting set list to see in 2007 or 2008. now it doesn't really matter because it's being played by a band that's not fit enough for these tunes.
Gotta agree with this, and I'm not even one that dislikes Mike that much (I have no real opinion on him really). The whole performance of "Geek U.S.A." just seemed lifeless, much like all of the post-2007 output.

Nicole looked good, though. So at least they've got that going for them.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:50 AM   #41
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hasn't he been using bogners since 2007?
He used both Bogner and Diezel early 2007, and at some point during the touring that year dropped Bogner all together.

I have never liked the Diezel sound with the band.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:02 AM   #42
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ok so that setlist is fucking OUT OF CONTROL

byrne does ruin geek usa though.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:04 AM   #43
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i'm contemplating snagging a ticket for the 930 club if i can find one...

i remember when the tour was announced i was all "well if he put together some ridiculous setlist blahblah but he won't" and then he did

so

fuck. am i a hypocrite? maybe? but pissant and frail and bedazzled?

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:17 AM   #44
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What does the new stuff sound like?

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM   #45
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i'm contemplating snagging a ticket for the 930 club if i can find one...

i remember when the tour was announced i was all "well if he put together some ridiculous setlist blahblah but he won't" and then he did

so

fuck. am i a hypocrite? maybe? but pissant and frail and bedazzled?
you'd be a hypocrite if you forgot that you're giving money to a transphobic asshat.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM   #46
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What does the new stuff sound like?
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:24 AM   #47
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Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny?
I thought this performance was pretty good.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:30 AM   #48
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you'd be a hypocrite if you forgot that you're giving money to a transphobic asshat.
i'm sure a lot of my money goes a lot of places i don't want it to

but i mean

pissant!

someone needs to tell me if byrne fucked up the rest of the songs as badly as geek usa. because if that's the case i won't go.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:32 AM   #49
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Interesting setlist. I'd pay $20 for that show. Nothing more than that though.

Mike's a good drummer, just not the right drummer for Smashing Pumpkins. He played Geek USA, but robbed it of it's swagger and power. But that's not his fault; there's only one Jimmy Chamberlin. Matt Walker couldn't have done it better than Mike, and I don't even think Kenny could have done it like Jimmy.

Your guys' expectations are WAY too high. Christ.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:33 AM   #50
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no they're actually pretty low

i just don't want to go to a show if i'm going to hear hollowed out, soulless versions of the songs i like on that setlist

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:38 AM   #51
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Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny?
I thought this performance was pretty good.
No, Jimmy played everything a good 10 to 30 bpm faster live because he's a goddamn animal and that's how he rolls. Dude never, ever, played any note anything less than straight up brilliantly, live, in the studio or otherwise.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:43 AM   #52
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to be fair there are songs like Fuck You that I've only heard "work" like once (97 GM show).

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:44 AM   #53
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i just don't want to go to a show if i'm going to hear hollowed out, soulless versions of the songs i like on that setlist
that is EXACTLY what will happen

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:44 AM   #54
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I've said this in jest a dozen times but now i've seen this I am dead serious:

I am a better drummer than this kid. I could pick up my phone now and call ten people who are better drummers. It's not a bad performance, sure, but he sounds like he's hanging on to that groove for dear life where jimmy was comfortably riding it like it wasn't even a thing.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:45 AM   #55
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Ehh, Jimmy often had tempo issues, didn't he, Sonic Johnny?
I thought this performance was pretty good.
massive difference between tempo and timing.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:46 AM   #56
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someone needs to tell me if byrne fucked up the rest of the songs as badly as geek usa. because if that's the case i won't go.
what do you think?

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:48 AM   #57
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I know for a fact that I am more excited about hearing this show than I am about hearing Oceania.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:57 AM   #58
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He used both Bogner and Diezel early 2007, and at some point during the touring that year dropped Bogner all together.

I have never liked the Diezel sound with the band.
we should totally form a tone snob club and blast billy about this.
think the oBoard would tolerate a "we love you billy, but we hate the Diezel" campaign?

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:58 AM   #59
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what do you think?
i dunno man

i think there was a version of ruby i heard from a while ago that was ok.

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i need to hear the whole thing before making a decision i guess.

 
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:09 AM   #60
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that is EXACTLY what will happen

 
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