Netphoria Message Board


Go Back   Netphoria Message Board > Archives > Pumpkins Archive
Register Netphoria's Amazon.com Link Members List Photo Album Mark Forums Read

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-29-2008, 11:18 AM   #211
the mahatma
Demi-God
 
the mahatma's Avatar
 
Posts: 313
Default

i did a little cleanup and tried to add some "balls" to the radio rip. i kind of brick-walled it, but since the quality is shit anyway, there was only so much i could do.

http://rapidshare.com/files/14940609...eanup.mp3.html

this song does remind me of zoom, but also white spider and WBFTT at times. this is a better single than tarantula, and hopefully it's indicative of whatever they do next being better than zeitgeist in general. the second half of this song is as good as some pre-breakup songs in my opinion. the chorus is just really boring.

 
the mahatma is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:23 AM   #212
SpFission
Apocalyptic Poster
 
SpFission's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,999
Default

The breakdown in the middle is pretty cool. Based on the rip, the guitars will probably sound much better in a higher quality recording.

 
SpFission is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:24 AM   #213
wounded
Apocalyptic Poster
 
wounded's Avatar
 
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 3,775
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the mahatma View Post
i did a little cleanup and tried to add some "balls" to the radio rip. i kind of brick-walled it, but since the quality is shit anyway, there was only so much i could do.

http://rapidshare.com/files/14940609...eanup.mp3.html

this song does remind me of zoom, but also white spider and WBFTT at times. this is a better single than tarantula, and hopefully it's indicative of whatever they do next being better than zeitgeist in general. the second half of this song is as good as some pre-breakup songs in my opinion. the chorus is just really boring.
yeah the chorus sucks

 
wounded is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:25 AM   #214
davin
Physiopathic Paralysis
 
davin's Avatar
 
Location: Carcosa
Posts: 10,702
Default

i definitely thinks it smore palatable than tarantula...but not sure i would use the word "better".

again, its obvious to me that billy is trying to write a catchy song and capture more new fans. lest we forget, he's not playing to the front row anymore!

 
davin is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:26 AM   #215
Rickpat12
Apocalyptic Poster
 
Rickpat12's Avatar
 
Location: GUITAR PICK?
Posts: 3,398
Default

I'm liking it. It is what it is...a radio single. I really like the fades on the guitars as someone mentioned earlier! Pretty kick ass.

 
Rickpat12 is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:30 AM   #216
skipgo
Minion of Satan
 
skipgo's Avatar
 
Location: i'm a horrible human being
Posts: 9,146
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tcm View Post
this is tcm.
savant-like in his ability to find old postings. or pretty much any other information ever committed to paper or screen.

 
skipgo is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:31 AM   #217
skipgo
Minion of Satan
 
skipgo's Avatar
 
Location: i'm a horrible human being
Posts: 9,146
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davin View Post
i definitely thinks it smore palatable than tarantula...but not sure i would use the word "better".

again, its obvious to me that billy is trying to write a catchy song and capture more new fans. lest we forget, he's not playing to the front row anymore!
kind of a bummer to have his straight up admit that he's less interested in the loyal followers than the mainstream listeners. *sigh* oh well.

 
skipgo is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:32 AM   #218
28if
Apocalyptic Poster
 
28if's Avatar
 
Location: yeah seriously i think we've more than established a consensus on reality, it's not that abstract.
Posts: 3,455
Default

Come on baby, no time for maybe's?


 
28if is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:35 AM   #219
sniffingchimp
Ownz
 
sniffingchimp's Avatar
 
Posts: 769
Default

95% of Q101 voters seemed to like it. What the fuck that indicates I dont know.

 
sniffingchimp is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:36 AM   #220
???
Minion of Satan
 
???'s Avatar
 
Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯
Posts: 8,662
Default

HAZY LAZY MAYBE CRAZY

 
??? is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #221
???
Minion of Satan
 
???'s Avatar
 
Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯
Posts: 8,662
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sniffingchimp View Post
95% of Q101 voters seemed to like it. What the fuck that indicates I dont know.
it indicates that bill is an expert at proxy IP voting.

 
??? is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:39 AM   #222
skipgo
Minion of Satan
 
skipgo's Avatar
 
Location: i'm a horrible human being
Posts: 9,146
Default

i'm scared to listen to it.

 
skipgo is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:40 AM   #223
avsfan7733
Apocalyptic Poster
 
avsfan7733's Avatar
 
Location: neither here nor there
Posts: 1,217
Default

could have been alot worse.

 
avsfan7733 is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:42 AM   #224
the mahatma
Demi-God
 
the mahatma's Avatar
 
Posts: 313
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davin View Post
i definitely thinks it smore palatable than tarantula...but not sure i would use the word "better".

again, its obvious to me that billy is trying to write a catchy song and capture more new fans. lest we forget, he's not playing to the front row anymore!
agreed after reconsideration.

 
the mahatma is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:42 AM   #225
Cool As Ice Cream
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
Cool As Ice Cream's Avatar
 
Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle?
Posts: 30,975
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rolmos View Post
fuck off monty.
seriously

 
Cool As Ice Cream is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:43 AM   #226
jm9843
Ownz
 
jm9843's Avatar
 
Posts: 625
Default

Alerting all morons: this song was recorded primarily for a video game and not for you.

You can now resume listening to Crestfallen and its ilk.

 
jm9843 is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:44 AM   #227
davin
Physiopathic Paralysis
 
davin's Avatar
 
Location: Carcosa
Posts: 10,702
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipgo View Post
kind of a bummer to have his straight up admit that he's less interested in the loyal followers than the mainstream listeners. *sigh* oh well.
its not about shitting on the loyal followers. its about billy being less self indulgent. he knows the loyal followers will like anything & everything SP puts out, therefore obscuring any objective take on the work. so instead he is tryign to ground himself in the reality of trying to make good songs (catchy songs?) that would have more mass appeal and/or non-fan appeal. sure, in the end the front row will still like it, but the appraoch is different.

at least thats how i see it, reading all the recent comments, the stuff he said on the uli-man-date, and now hearign this song. he wants to see what a stand-alone catchy single will do, before he moves on to the forthcoming psychadelia!

 
davin is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:46 AM   #228
Cool As Ice Cream
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
Cool As Ice Cream's Avatar
 
Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle?
Posts: 30,975
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jm9843 View Post
Alerting all morons: this song was recorded primarily for a video game and not for you.
shut up, dickface.

 
Cool As Ice Cream is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:46 AM   #229
the mahatma
Demi-God
 
the mahatma's Avatar
 
Posts: 313
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jm9843 View Post
Alerting all morons: this song was recorded primarily for a video game and not for you.

You can now resume listening to Crestfallen and its ilk.
your avatar horrifies america, and me.

by the way i never gave the song a numerical rating.

6.9

 
the mahatma is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:49 AM   #230
skipgo
Minion of Satan
 
skipgo's Avatar
 
Location: i'm a horrible human being
Posts: 9,146
Default

well i didn't say that he was shitting on us, just that he wasn't as interested in us. And I'm sure my view is skewed by my netphoria tunnel vision, but it seems like the loyal fans are fairly critical of the new stuff. I don't think he should assume the fans will automatically like it. I mean, I get what you're saying about trying to write catchy "good" songs. I honestly think he shouldn't care about either group. it would be best if he just wrote for himself and let the rest of the world sort it out on its own. But maybe he's doing just that. I'm only commenting on that one quote about the "front row" that you alluded to; maybe that was just some off the cuff comment that didn't mean much.

 
skipgo is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:50 AM   #231
killtrocity
Saturday Night Goth
 
killtrocity's Avatar
 
Location: POLLOS
Posts: 8,725
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by McCarron View Post
I post with my real name here

 
killtrocity is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:51 AM   #232
davin
Physiopathic Paralysis
 
davin's Avatar
 
Location: Carcosa
Posts: 10,702
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipgo View Post
well i didn't say that he was shitting on us, just that he wasn't as interested in us. And I'm sure my view is skewed by my netphoria tunnel vision, but it seems like the loyal fans are fairly critical of the new stuff. I don't think he should assume the fans will automatically like it. I mean, I get what you're saying about trying to write catchy "good" songs. I honestly think he shouldn't care about either group. it would be best if he just wrote for himself and let the rest of the world sort it out on its own. But maybe he's doing just that. I'm only commenting on that one quote about the "front row" that you alluded to; maybe that was just some off the cuff comment that didn't mean much.
fairly critical of the new material or not...you're still waiting in line all day and you're still in the front row! thats the point he's tryign to make. even the long-time highly-critical fans still show up in the end!

 
davin is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:52 AM   #233
jm9843
Ownz
 
jm9843's Avatar
 
Posts: 625
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream View Post
shut up, dickface.
Try and make me stupid head person.

 
jm9843 is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:55 AM   #234
skipgo
Minion of Satan
 
skipgo's Avatar
 
Location: i'm a horrible human being
Posts: 9,146
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davin View Post
fairly critical of the new material or not...you're still waiting in line all day and you're still in the front row! thats the point he's tryign to make. even the long-time highly-critical fans still show up in the end!
hm. yeah, i see your point. but i do think he shouldn't just take that for granted. "oh they'll be there, i'm not worried about T****.

eh, it's not a huge deal to me though. I'm starting to think it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things. Yes, I'll still be on the front row, even if i don't like the new stuff. But I wish I DID like the new stuff. or rather, I hope I DO. But if I don't, it's no big deal anymore.

 
skipgo is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 11:55 AM   #235
Northern_Hazel
Pledge
 
Northern_Hazel's Avatar
 
Location: AZ
Posts: 104
Default

Good production, very boring & meaningless song. I listened once, enjoyed not hearing too many vocal effects, put down my headphones and said "well, that was interesting". Not at all moved to listen to it again.

Billy - if the next album is full of shit like this, I will finally throw in the towel. I used to say that I liked SP in a proud voice. Now I have to make up tons of excuses. Fuck.

Last edited by Northern_Hazel : 09-29-2008 at 12:17 PM.

 
Northern_Hazel is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #236
slappyspank33
Pledge
 
slappyspank33's Avatar
 
Posts: 71
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davin View Post
fairly critical of the new material or not...you're still waiting in line all day and you're still in the front row! thats the point he's tryign to make. even the long-time highly-critical fans still show up in the end!
Yeah, to hear the old songs. I'll sit through GLOW to hear Porcelina or Ruby.
It's also too bad about the two night packaged shows. That's a perfect way to shit on your fans, make it even easier for scalpers to buy all of the tickets.

- a sad soul who couldn't get toronto tix

Last edited by slappyspank33 : 09-29-2008 at 12:18 PM.

 
slappyspank33 is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 12:15 PM   #237
wilch
Ownz
 
wilch's Avatar
 
Posts: 585
Default

terrible vocal delivery as usually, ending is quite good, chorus is quite good, verse is shit. Minge!

 
wilch is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 12:16 PM   #238
slappyspank33
Pledge
 
slappyspank33's Avatar
 
Posts: 71
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern_Hazel View Post
Good production, very boring & meaningless song. I listened once, enjoyed not hearing too many vocal effects, put down my headphones and said "well, that was interesting". Not at all moved to listen to it again.

Billy - if the next album is full of shit like this, I will finally throw in the towel. I used to say that I liked SP in a proud voice. Now I have to make up tons of excuses. Fuck.
Ha! I couldn't agree with this more.

 
slappyspank33 is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 12:19 PM   #239
epinson
Oblivious Virgin
 
Posts: 26
Default

There are not enough Billys on this song.

 
epinson is offline
Old 09-29-2008, 12:21 PM   #240
skipgo
Minion of Satan
 
skipgo's Avatar
 
Location: i'm a horrible human being
Posts: 9,146
Default

for what it's worth, i do think if they continue to not "play to the front row", they will lose some of those fans. your monte's and davins will still be there, and a lot of the rest of us too; but I'm sure there are plenty who will get fed up with it. There's being loyal and hopeful, and then there's just blindly following... it's a fine line, and even I will get bored with it eventually.

 
skipgo is offline
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is On
Google


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
i blow the dust off my guitaaaaaaaaaar pale_princess Pumpkins Archive 52 10-13-2008 09:47 AM
Does Zeitgeist have the most mediocre Billy Corgan lyrics of all time. kevinjboconnor Pumpkins Archive 62 02-22-2008 11:47 AM
Glass is not dead. Kahlo Pumpkins Archive 113 12-13-2006 01:10 AM
Apparently Kill Hannah has heard some of the new album Rommy Pumpkins Archive 74 10-11-2006 09:48 PM
Ultimate MACHINA: 1 hr - pick the best. YOU make it! Ugly Pumpkins Archive 23 06-23-2006 06:03 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:06 AM.




Smashing Pumpkins, Alternative Music
& General Discussion Message Board and Forums
www.netphoria.org - Copyright © 1998-2019