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Old 07-16-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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Smashing Pumpkins, Trail of Dead and the Deftones seem to be following the same pattern to their album releases / quality. I use these bands as an example, because really, their styles are all very similar.

Gish / Adrenaline / Debut - Each a good listen. Little, yellow, different.
SD / Fur / Madonna - Typically the fan favorites. All three fantastic albums.
MCIS / White Pony / Source Tags - The breakout albums. Typically critics' favorites, and for good reason.
Adore / Self Titled / World's Apart - Fans enjoy all three, but the consensus is they much prefer the older albums.
Machina / Saturday / So Divided - All three are Meh.

Now we have Zeitgiest. K, wtf. Does this mean the next two releases for Deftones and Trail of Dead are going to suck as badly as this???

I think record companies force shitty album releases for some sinister reason. Thoughts?

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:03 PM   #2
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Trail of Dead doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as those bands, really

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:12 PM   #3
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and what fans enjoyed World's Apart? that was a fucking terrible record.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:18 PM   #4
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all these bands are nothing alike. you might be right with that album by album comparison. from a fan's standpoint.

but god do i hate the deftones

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:58 PM   #5
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I think this is a real common archetype you can apply to hundreds of bands. The early stuff > the fan favorite > the popular record > all downhill from there. It's really very common.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:19 PM   #6
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Saturday Night Wrist is a great album. much better than Self Titled. Self Titled is so one-dimensional and harsh. Its hard for me to listen to all the way through. It's a very ugly album in my opinion. Saturday Night Wrist is a return to form.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:21 PM   #7
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Madonna = buzz.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:33 PM   #8
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This pattern works better with Queens of the Stone Age.

Self Titled - a good listen but not great as things to come

Rated R - a big step up in quality / fan favorite

Songs For The Deaf - breakout album / critics favorite

Lullabies - a solid effort but fans prefer the older records

Era Vulgaris - a not so great album / starting to fall off

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:41 PM   #9
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Rated R has to be the best rock album of this decade.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:42 PM   #10
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i'd say

self titled
r
era vulgaris
lullabies
songs for the deaf

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:50 PM   #11
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the best song on era vulgaris is the bonus track era vulgaris. what is your favourite on this album?
sick, sick, sick

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:56 PM   #12
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then i'm immune, baby. i also haven't listened to this album in a while.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:10 PM   #13
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i've listened to it once or twice and thought it was pretty fresh for a qotsa record. i can't remember what tracks i particularly enjoyed.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:13 PM   #14
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Saturday Night Wrist is a great album. much better than Self Titled. Self Titled is so one-dimensional and harsh. Its hard for me to listen to all the way through. It's a very ugly album in my opinion. Saturday Night Wrist is a return to form.
Self Titled has Hexagram and Minerva on it

Although, Rats! and Mein are pretty sweet. But then Pink Cellphone fucking ruins everything, so there, Self Titled is better.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:04 PM   #15
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qotsa just produces consistently good albums

how long until a radiohead/sp parallel is dissected cunningly

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:49 PM   #16
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SNW > zeitgeist
This is prob true.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:38 PM   #17
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Saturday Night Wrist is an absolutely phenomenal album. Cherry Waves is one of the best songs in Deftones' catalog.

And it's also much better than Zeitgeist, and I don't even think Zeitgeist is that bad.

 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:41 PM   #18
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yeah boring / boring / boring

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:58 AM   #19
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and what fans enjoyed World's Apart? that was a fucking terrible record.
I know plenty of people who liked it, myself *******d

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:01 AM   #20
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out of simple curiousity, can you explain why? because i thought the lyrics were insufferable, the songs themselves uninspired, and the record as a whole was just a complete and total misfire.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:43 PM   #21
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and that is why british people have bad teeth. Amen
Hot carling. I turned it into a verb.

Hot Carling Academy. It's the school where you go to learn how to buttfuck. They don't have blowjobs there because they're uncircumcised and that is just disgusting. So they have to buttfuck, which is also disgusting because it traps all the germs, and the poop, and the buttfucking residue.

that's from memory.

i kind of like the tune if i just ignore the words. self-titled and snw are both awesome, if you ask me.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:28 PM   #22
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That rant at the end of Pink Cellphone is great. One of my favorite moments on the album, actually.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:29 PM   #23
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SNW > self titled

SNW > zeitgeist
Good call.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:57 PM   #24
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Self Titled has Hexagram and Minerva on it

Although, Rats! and Mein are pretty sweet. But then Pink Cellphone fucking ruins everything, so there, Self Titled is better.
Annie and her band Giant Drag suck taint (except for Micah the person with actual talent probably why he left). Pink Cellphone was a waste on SNW. I saw the Deftones live in L.A. and Annie came out and same the background vocals for Knife Party. She absolutely butchered the song.

 
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