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Old 11-05-2020, 11:52 AM   #1
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which one is it what is it what's the right one how do you say it what's the pronunciation

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:01 PM   #2
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:07 PM   #3
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in our regional Northern Vowel Shift accent we typically pronounce it: mish-ah-gen. we pronounce a whole lot of things odly.

we also say melk instead of milk. And "ope" instead of excuse me. Liquor stores are called "Party Stores". Hot dogs are called Coneys. The Lake refers to Lake Michigan. Mackinac and Mackinaw are pronounced the same.

The accent is very similar to people from Cleveland (except Ohio is a shit hole and should be destroyed) or Buffalo NY. Don't ask me why, but the accent kind of pops up there too. It's not quite the same as Wisconsin, which is an OK place, I guess. And it's very different from Chicago, which people in the south tend to think is where I'm from.

most people from Michigan refer to themselves as "Michiganders". Michiganian used to be just as common, but conservatives seem to have decided that only liberals use Michiganian, so now most people use Michigander.

I rarely hear anyone in the North use the term Michigander or Michiganian. The 10% of people who live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan usually refer to themselves as "Yoopers". And they call everyone south of the Mackinac Bridge "Trolls".

Go Blue. Fuck Ohio

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Old 11-05-2020, 12:30 PM   #4
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ok well why won't you lot just write it that way then

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:30 PM   #5
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:35 PM   #6
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It's from the Ojibwe word "michigami"

but I can't explain why the English started pronouncing it that way. Most of the state was named by French colonialists who appropriated place names from the indigenous people. Ask the French!

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:38 PM   #7
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I also can't explain why half the State over uses the word "eh".

Or why my parents say "crick" instead of creek. Or ruff instead of roof.

I stopped staying Pop when referring to Soda and that was a huge effort on my part.

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:41 PM   #8
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:57 PM   #9
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poliesie of polietsie?

 
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polietsie, clearly

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 01:02 PM   #11
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Or why my parents say "crick" instead of creek.
sounds australian.

 
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we also say melk instead of milk.
sounds dutch.

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 01:10 PM   #14
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sounds dutch.
It is Dutch. SE michigan is infested with Dutch people


 
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Old 11-05-2020, 01:13 PM   #15
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The accent is very similar to people from Cleveland (except Ohio is a shit hole and should be destroyed)

Fuck Ohio
there's a Hellmouth in Cleveland

 
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The two Congressional Reps for my home town are named Meijer and Huizenga.

The Dutch control the Michigan republican Party

 
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there's a Hellmouth in Cleveland
Ohio is American's Hell Mouth

 
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Many of the Dutch who immigrated to michigan were right wing anti catholic religious extremists who were disgusted by the moral decay of the Netherlands and furious that Catholics were allowed to vote there. So they came to Michigan and took over everything so that one day Betsy Devos would become Education Secretary and destroy the American public school system.

When I was young some dutch people in my neighborhood still referred to themselves as Zeelanders. "Which when i was a kid I thought meant that they were from Zeeland, Michigan.

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there's a Hellmouth in Cleveland
we have a Helmond here

 
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polietsie, clearly
sounds good to me.
i was brought up with poliesie, though.

is it the same for vakantie, for example?
(never heard anyone say "vakantsie", i don't think.)

 
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sounds good to me.
i was brought up with poliesie, though.

is it the same for vakantie, for example?
(never heard anyone say "vakantsie", i don't think.)
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yeah vakantie is vakansie

this is different from the michigan thing though, isn't the CH always pronounced as 'tsh' normally?

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 03:41 PM   #22
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unless i've stupidly been mispronouncing machine all my life. :'(

 
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ok well why won't you lot just write it that way then
because when i was inventing the English language in the early 2000s, i thought it would be functional and downright fashionable to have certain letters sound different ways depending on the word - i see now this plan may have backfired

 
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Michigan is named after Michoacán

 
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because when i was inventing the English language in the early 2000s, i thought it would be functional and downright fashionable to have certain letters sound different ways depending on the word - i see now this plan may have backfired
you think you're all that because you invented English?

 
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