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Old 11-04-2020, 05:20 AM   #211
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His attempt to rewrite the original run of the band to accommodate his current narrative of the neoconservative business and family man (or whatever the fuck he's trying to do right now) is pathetic and probably a lie.
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Old 11-04-2020, 05:44 AM   #212
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His attempt to rewrite the original run of the band to accommodate his current narrative of the neoconservative business and family man (or whatever the fuck he's trying to do right now) is pathetic and probably a lie. He was a 20 year old kid from the Chicago suburbs with little knowledge and a great talent.

I mean, even the sound of the band was a happy accident. Let's not forget all those bands had little time to plot anything, they got caught in the big wave of alternative music and there they went.
Also....does it even fucking matter? Like -- I've never met Billy. I don't know Billy.

So if he's writing from a character that he invented, that may as well be him for all I know or care, because the only thing I know about Billy is that he is the Pumpkin man who wrote the songs



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his current narrative of the neoconservative business and family man
this is exactly what his current persona is. perfect way to word it

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:03 AM   #213
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Pls

Zwan >>>>>>>>>> Zeitgeist.

Even just based on Mary Star.

Now that is the sarcasm I value

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:14 AM   #214
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Hello fellow Zeitgeist Truther

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:18 AM   #215
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well now that I know that CROPUMPKINS is in the Death From Above Is The Shit club I am questioning myself
Karate Mike is that you?

You too likes DFA?


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Old 11-04-2020, 10:48 AM   #216
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Man, I really don't know anymore.
Leading to break up, I thought everything this band does is turned to gold. Machina was like worst effort, but even there we had some great shit like Stand inside....

Then came Zwan and I was bummed, I was like 'wtf is this crap!? It had Jim and Bill, never thought it can get this bad.

Then came Zeitgeist, kept my fingers crossed after Zwan train wreck...
But hell... Magic was back!!!
Doomsday, Starz, USA, Tarantula, That' s the way, 7 shades...ppl liked bashing, but that was a serious album.
In fact, BAM! We additionaly got some of the best stuff in TSP history in Gossamer, SC, Death from above...

Jimmy leaves, Bill goes almost to Zwan form with an highschooler and some Kaleidoshit songs, but when I though t he lost it - we get really decent Oceania.

He fires Karate kid, I hope for the best, but he adds Jim and James and they all record some of the most uninspired, boring shit ever. Something so boring I can't make myself listen to longer than 3 songs!?

Has he def lost it!?!?
Is this another chapter of up and down history??
Who knows.

Saddly, we are all forced losing our time listening to shit since 2000, cause each time we wrote him off, he would actually pht a spell of magic to some magnificent shit.

The queation is, how long will this shit period last for this time around.
They switch around sounds a lot. Some will work for you, some wont. Widow Wake My Mind is good but it's no surprise that people who want more Rat In A Cage aren't going to get it.

The Cyr songs are kinda boring but as WPC said, that's on purpose and part of the concept. It's an album that's designed to reward patience and devotion.

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:49 AM   #217
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Now that is the sarcasm I value
I'm lukewarm on Mary Star.

But it's a ton better than Shitegeist.*

*copyright Woody 2020 pls do not use my material without permission.

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:20 PM   #218
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I'm lukewarm on Mary Star.

But it's a ton better than Shitegeist.

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:31 PM   #219
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Zeitgeist was the last time CRŘGĂN put any emotion into his music. People don't like it because it doesn't have the lushness of his previous stuff; it's a hard edged, sometimes awkward sounding album, but that gives it a unique power.

The 'let me be every moment I misunderstood' moment in USA is fucking massive. Sometimes the ridiculousness of art makes it more impactful.

If you don't get that, you're a musical dilettante.

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:47 PM   #220
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The cringing devotion in WPC circle is truly something to behold. And this is off WPC instagram stories! smh

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Old 11-04-2020, 03:54 PM   #221
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Also....does it even fucking matter? Like -- I've never met Billy. I don't know Billy.

So if he's writing from a character that he invented, that may as well be him for all I know or care, because the only thing I know about Billy is that he is the Pumpkin man who wrote the songs
True, great art speaks for itself.

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 05:39 PM   #222
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Yeah it fucking matters. The new narrative is revisionist bs. MCIS wasn’t a concept album and Machina was a half baked one. Neither album are related to each other in any way, shape, or form. Just a ploy to garner interest in a steadily waning band.

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Old 11-04-2020, 05:51 PM   #223
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lol "steadily"

 
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Old 11-04-2020, 08:18 PM   #224
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The cringing devotion in WPC circle is truly something to behold. And this is off WPC instagram stories! smh
plus it's a perfectly innocent question! why be so fucking defensive instead of giving a fucking decent answer about your artistic choices?? you're holding the fucking q+A, right?

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 03:07 AM   #225
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Yeah it fucking matters. The new narrative is revisionist bs. MCIS wasn’t a concept album and Machina was a half baked one. Neither album are related to each other in any way, shape, or form. Just a ploy to garner interest in a steadily waning band.
I agree. Was just thinking about this. He’s acting like all of these albums are tied together with the same characters.... Glass... Zero... whatever their names are. Honestly, I think he read up on some of the fan speculation/guesses and decided to run with some of their ideas, passing it off as his own.

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 07:12 AM   #226
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I AM THE FACE IN YOUR DREAMS OF GLASS
(ZERO - 1995)

it was all planned, pepole! it's not hard to see this. this proves it. scholars point to this lyric to illustrate pointing at lyrics.

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:09 AM   #227
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Death From Above is the worst song ever written and if you disagree I hope you get killed by a thousand murder hornets

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:35 AM   #228
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I agree. Was just thinking about this. He’s acting like all of these albums are tied together with the same characters.... Glass... Zero... whatever their names are. Honestly, I think he read up on some of the fan speculation/guesses and decided to run with some of their ideas, passing it off as his own.

Exactly. Look at jimmys face when bill talking about that shit....i dont believe a word bolly says.

Ahhh cyr is intentionally boring? Yeah, and i got 3 tits and 2 cocks...

Strawtits is a wanna be artist,.... ugly fuckface

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:36 AM   #229
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I AM THE FACE IN YOUR DREAMS OF GLASS
(ZERO - 1995)

it was all planned, pepole! it's not hard to see this. this proves it. scholars point to this lyric to illustrate pointing at lyrics.

Yeah vex my worl lover from shamain

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 10:24 AM   #230
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MCIS is an album within a concept of an album within an album within a concept of a career. It's always been like that. 20 years ago he was pointing at Bye June, saying he'd been masterminding Machina since day 1. It's always been Glass Onion. Dunno why anyone would be surprised or upset about what he's saying now bunch of untrue fans

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 10:49 AM   #231
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Death From Above is the worst song ever written and if you disagree I hope you get killed by a thousand murder hornets
Death From Above would've been fine if Billy had just turned his vocals up another 50% and lowered the guitar and drums, his singing is so beautiful but I can barely hear it for all the fucking background noise.


 
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Old 11-05-2020, 10:52 AM   #232
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I wish Billy was less generous in his production and had more confidence in both his voice, and talents as a producer: a field of expertise you don't need to know anything about when you've sold multi-platinum records.

 
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:22 PM   #233
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Death From Above is the worst song ever written and if you disagree I hope you get killed by a thousand murder hornets
I mean, I might have believed you in 2005. Since then there have been many, many worse candidates.

 
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Old 11-06-2020, 10:52 PM   #234
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fuck you guys

whispers in "horses galloping on a windy hillside"

 
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Old 11-06-2020, 11:41 PM   #235
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Death from Above is a good song.

 
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Old 11-10-2020, 09:21 AM   #237
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I AM THE FACE IN YOUR DREAMS OF GLASS
(ZERO - 1995)

it was all planned, pepole! it's not hard to see this. this proves it. scholars point to this lyric to illustrate pointing at lyrics.
I just spit my coffee.

This shit blew my mind when I was 15. And then I grew older and less retarded.

 
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Old 11-10-2020, 09:25 AM   #238
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keep it up with the personal growth, then.

 
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:03 PM   #239
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I AM THE FACE IN YOUR DREAMS OF GLASS
(ZERO - 1995)

it was all planned, pepole! it's not hard to see this. this proves it. scholars point to this lyric to illustrate pointing at lyrics.
Thru The Eyes Of Ruby
"Breathing underwater and living under glass"

Oh, he just means glass, not Glass glass.

 
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