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Old 04-18-2020, 12:33 PM   #1
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Default SPLRA help: Who has a good archive of SP live shows/boots/DVDs etc?

As I continue to find and distribute new sources of shows, i'm having a hard time finding circulating recordings to compare to.

I have two questions:

- Who has a good archive of current circulating shows? I know most of the audio is on archive.org, but nobody seems to have a backup of circulating video (VCD, DVD, etc)? If there's anyone I could get in contact with to do a hard drive dump or similar, please let me know

- Anyone have the circulating video of 2000-11-03? I may have an upgrade but I can't find what's currently out there to compare.

Thank you! I hope to continue working on finding upgrades and new sources to distro

 
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Old 04-18-2020, 02:08 PM   #2
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- Anyone have the circulating video of 2000-11-03? I may have an upgrade but I can't find what's currently out there to compare.
i have this:
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Smashing Pumpkins - 2000-11-03: Wembley Arena, London, UK




DVD (AMT #1) > Hard Drive > TLH




Set One:

Glass and the Ghost Children
Le Deux Machina (tease)
Today
Stand Inside Your Love
Thirty-three
To Sheila
Blue Skies Bring Tears
(drum solo)

Set Two:

Glass' Theme
The Everlasting Gaze
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Once in a Lifetime [Talking Heads] [4:18]
Speed Kills
If There Is a God
Cash Car Star
Rock On [Essex]
Heavy Metal Machine
Disarm
Tonight, Tonight
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
I of the Mourning

Encore One:

Blank Page
Ava Adore

Encore Two:

God Save the Queen [traditional] (tease)
1979




_All credits to the original creator/s_




Notes: First time I saw SP live (from left side). Og was 'within spitting distance' (as he explained it), many thanks to him for this DVD and originally introducing me to live aud and vid recordings.
it comes with this screenshot: vlcsnap-1455-05-10-00h23m28s206.jpg

 
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Old 04-18-2020, 02:18 PM   #3
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Thank you! Exactly what I needed. Looks like my video is an upgrade to this source.

 
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:24 AM   #4
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ah, cool.
thought you might have needed more info or screenshots, but if this is enough, that's even better.

 
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Old 11-01-2020, 07:35 PM   #5
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Gonna use this thread to request help for comparing new tapes and sources. Does anyone have these circulating videos handy. I may have some upgrades.

- 1996-06-15 Tibetan Freedom Concert PRO#2a video 30mins
- 1994-03-24 SIU AMT1 DVD 93m

 
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Old 11-02-2020, 07:23 AM   #6
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- Who has a good archive of current circulating shows? I know most of the audio is on archive.org, but nobody seems to have a backup of circulating video (VCD, DVD, etc)?
I've never quite understood why there hasn't been a similar concerted effort to get the video content on Archive.org.

The taping policy extends to video content too:
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Smashing Pumpkins Taping Policy
June 2007
"a clear declaration of our new open-source taping policy...everyone is welcome to tape at our shows in whatever capacity they see fit...anyone is welcome and invited to document using audio, video, or picture cameras (cell phones are welcome)...although we do reserve the right to refuse anyone at anytime (especially if we feel the reason for recording is not for entirely altruistic)"
Presumably this means we could coordinate archival of this content on the Internet Archive too?

 
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Old 11-02-2020, 10:40 AM   #7
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oh god, that would be amazing.

also now i'm paranoid about corgan randomly starting to crack down on fan bootlegs...doesn't want us living in the pass

 
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Old 11-02-2020, 12:27 PM   #8
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- 1996-06-15 Tibetan Freedom Concert PRO#2a video 30mins
Accompanying notes:
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Smashing Pumpkins: 1996-06-15 - Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, CA, US

- Tibetan Freedom Concert (MTV Week In Rock)




NTSC VHS > Thomson VTH 6080 > Dazzle DVC100 > Instant DVD Recorder - VOB




Bullet With Butterfly Wings (full)
Zero
Tonight, Tonight
Fuck You
Silverfuck
Performance Re-cap
Short Band Interview (D'Arcy and Billy speak)
More Re-cap/SP Discussion and continuation of Silverfuck (over footage of Audience)
Final Re-cap and Silverfuck's conclusion (cuts)

Duration: Approx 37min


 
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Old 11-02-2020, 12:31 PM   #9
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- 1994-03-24 SIU AMT1 DVD 93m
Here's a still. No accompanying notes.


 
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Old 11-02-2020, 12:58 PM   #10
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Thank you! If you get a chance, can you upload these somewhere? I can possibly even give you a dropbox link to upload to if you need it.

 
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Old 11-03-2020, 07:11 AM   #11
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The circulating video of 1994-03-24 is an unknown gen VHS just copied into a unnamed DVD recorder. The transfer was done by a ZOMB member going by the name xdarcyx.

Here's the first 5 mins to get an idea of quality: https://we.tl/t-fH7S0xc93H

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Old 11-03-2020, 07:58 PM   #12
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The circulating video of 1994-03-24 is an unknown gen VHS just copied into a unnamed DVD recorder. The transfer was done by a ZOMB member going by the name xdarcyx.

Here's the first 5 mins to get an idea of quality: https://we.tl/t-fH7S0xc93H
Perfect!

 
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Old 11-15-2020, 10:51 PM   #13
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I received a tape of 1996-01-02 Toronto AMT1.

In comparison, it's a slight video upgrade. Also fixes slowdown and digital error issues on current.

But it has very bright red stage lights, versus parts in the current DVD with almost black and white sections.

Was color correction done on old transfer? Or was the equipment malfunctioning? I tend to trust my setup over the likely standalone old transfer, but this seems very odd.


 
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Old 11-15-2020, 11:07 PM   #14
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[no idea, sorry]

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Does anyone know where to find the 2000-10-19 Paris show video? the youtube copy is pixelated to hell

i wanna do a little project and sync the AUD #1 to it cause i think it sounds way better than the plain SBD

 
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:21 AM   #15
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[no idea, sorry]

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Does anyone know where to find the 2000-10-19 Paris show video? the youtube copy is pixelated to hell

i wanna do a little project and sync the AUD #1 to it cause i think it sounds way better than the plain SBD

Isn't that what copperpot did?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuBpjv0Tj6g

If not, I have the DVD from this video

 
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Old 11-16-2020, 07:37 AM   #16
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The Toronto show was transferred by the same person who did the DVD of 1994-03-24 and was the same procedure: An unknown gen VHS via a standalone DVD recorder. No additional editing would have been done imo.

 
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The Toronto show was transferred by the same person who did the DVD of 1994-03-24 and was the same procedure: An unknown gen VHS via a standalone DVD recorder. No additional editing would have been done imo.
Interesting. Must have been a bad tape or some kind of issue with the standalone transfer, very weird.

 
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Anyone have reading 92 AMT shot on tape? I just got a copy. SPLRA says it's not circulating. But my copy is pretty rough. Have to imagine there's better out there.

 
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