Netphoria Message Board


Go Back   Netphoria Message Board > Archives > General Chat Archive
Register Netphoria's Amazon.com Link Members List Mark Forums Read

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-26-2017, 08:30 PM   #1
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default The Sopranos thread

Man, I don't know why it took me so long to check out this show. It's fantastic! A lot of really great acting. The Ritchie Aprile character might just be my favorite character yet. Maybe just eking out Chistopher. It's a shame Ritichie's run on the series was so fleeting.

Is there any of you guys who haven't watched it yet? If so, you should check it out and then we can discuss it here. I just finished season 3. I've kinda been binge-watching it and I'm planning on watching it a 2nd time in a slower manner once I finish the series.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:32 PM   #2
Shallowed
Braindead
 
Posts: 18,608
Default

Chris dies.

 
Shallowed is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:33 PM   #3
redbreegull
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
redbreegull's Avatar
 
Location: N3t4Euh Haus
Posts: 32,749
Default

sometimes people tell me this is the greatest show of all time and I'm like

is it really? I mean i haven't seen it but I don't give a shit about mobsters or New Jersey.

 
redbreegull is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:58 PM   #4
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redbreegull View Post
sometimes people tell me this is the greatest show of all time and I'm like

is it really? I mean i haven't seen it but I don't give a shit about mobsters or New Jersey.
I recently watched it for the first time and got the impression that it's important just because it was the first show of its kind

re: an over-arcing big story told over several seasons on a cable network.

Otherwise, the dumb show left so many storylines and plotholes open it gets really ridiculous.

Never forget the show is satire is and supposed to be comedic.

Paulie is the greatest TV character ever.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...dec7bbcd81.jpg

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:36 PM   #5
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default

Yeah man, the premise didn't seem like my cup of tea either. But I checked it out reluctantly and just loved it.

Let's put it this way, if you liked Breaking Bad, you'll love this show. I'm a big BB fan and watching Soprano's you can tell how much Vince Gilligan ripped off from the show. There's countless arcs and character traits that Gilligan straight up lifted. I almost liken it to how Family Guy was "inspired" by The Simpsons.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-28-2017, 11:58 PM   #6
The Omega Concern
Banned
 
Location: stay, far, away
Posts: 8,986
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzyroes View Post
Yeah man, the premise didn't seem like my cup of tea either. But I checked it out reluctantly and just loved it.


Roger Ebert had it right. A good story isn't what its about, its how its about it.

 
The Omega Concern is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:38 PM   #7
MyOneAndOnly
Shut the fuck up!
 
MyOneAndOnly's Avatar
 
Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor
Posts: 23,876
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzyroes View Post
Yeah man, the premise didn't seem like my cup of tea either. But I checked it out reluctantly and just loved it.

Let's put it this way, if you liked Breaking Bad, you'll love this show. I'm a big BB fan and watching Soprano's you can tell how much Vince Gilligan ripped off from the show. There's countless arcs and character traits that Gilligan straight up lifted. I almost liken it to how Family Guy was "inspired" by The Simpsons.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...4fff3523b9.jpg

 
MyOneAndOnly is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:47 PM   #8
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default

I was googling "Breaking Bad Sopranos rip off" just to see if other people noticed it, and this guy articulates a lot of the reasons pretty spot on.

Breaking bad is really just The Sopranos in suburban Albuquerque. Lets look at the facts:

- Dark but morally ambiguous leading man asking the audience to question their own ethics and morals. He does terrible things but he is so badass you are forced to not write him off entirely. Strong Male anti hero's journey to power. (Anthony and Walt)

- Blonde complicit housewife often dealing with their codependence to said ethically questionable husband, constantly dealing with the problems of faith and adultery. (Carmella and Skyler)

- Confused son named after the father so as to force the audience to question how the fathers decisions affect his future. (Tony -> Anthony and Walt -> Walt Jr.)

- The Naive underling heavily influenced and manipulated by the dark bad ass man. (Christopher and Jesse)

- The single bad ass man is not the main feature, but his home life is extremely prominent throught the show. Marital quarrels, child, and financial problems are all front row and center. Something that was originally called "innovative" about the Sopranos.

The reason I say The Sopranos is better is because it doesn't choose or simplify things for you. In the Sopranos, no charachter is an absolute, they are all flawed, believable in their contradictions. In Breaking Bad, Jesse embodies innocence, while Walt goes from good to bad. It tells you what to think instead of making ask and question yourself.

Last edited by fuzzyroes : 07-26-2017 at 08:53 PM.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 08:53 PM   #9
Shallowed
Braindead
 
Posts: 18,608
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzyroes View Post
Dark but morally ambiguous leading man asking the audience to question their own ethics and morals. He does terrible things but he is so badass you are forced to not write him off entirely. Strong Male anti hero's journey to power. (Anthony and Walt)[/i]
This is pretty much required in the gangster genre.

 
Shallowed is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 10:19 PM   #10
reprise85
BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
 
reprise85's Avatar
 
Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face
Posts: 32,800
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzyroes View Post
- Dark but morally ambiguous leading man asking the audience to question their own ethics and morals.
Tony is not morally ambiguous whatsoever

 
reprise85 is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 11:15 PM   #11
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reprise85 View Post
Tony is not morally ambiguous whatsoever
Sure he is, or at least when it comes to his kids or if you compare him to the rest of his crew.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 11:29 PM   #12
reprise85
BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
 
reprise85's Avatar
 
Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face
Posts: 32,800
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzyroes View Post
Sure he is, or at least when it comes to his kids or if you compare him to the rest of his crew.
he murders people with his bare hands and is responsible for dozens of murders and ruining people's lives like what

 
reprise85 is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:07 PM   #13
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default

Sure, but those are just the main reasons, I can think of a ton of smaller examples too.

For instance, the plot and vibe of the episode where Pauly And Chris are lost out in the snowy forest and end up camping out in the van is nearly exactly the same as the episode in wh ch the battery dies in the motor-home and Jesse and Walt are stranded in the desert

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:08 PM   #14
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzyroes View Post
Sure, but those are just the main reasons, I can think of a ton of smaller examples too.

For instance, the plot and vibe of the episode where Pauly And Chris are lost out in the snowy forest and end up camping out in the van is nearly exactly the same as the episode in wh ch the battery dies in the motor-home and Jesse and Walt are stranded in the desert
i'm not shitting on the show. breaking bad sucked.

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:10 PM   #15
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

bryan cranston is a terrible actor. like an early jim carrey.

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:27 PM   #16
teh b0lly!!1
Braindead
 
teh b0lly!!1's Avatar
 
Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS
Posts: 17,399
Red face

Quote:
Originally Posted by slunken View Post
bryan cranston is a terrible actor. like an early jim carrey.
whoa

seriously?

 
teh b0lly!!1 is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:11 PM   #17
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

if breaking bad wasn't sold so seriously it would have maybe been a better show. Cranston has no business doing drama. He's a rubberfaced over-actor.

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:14 PM   #18
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slunken View Post
if breaking bad wasn't sold so seriously it would have maybe been a better show. Cranston has no business doing drama. He's a rubberfaced over-actor.
Hahaha I thought he was pretty great in the show. At least during the first few seasons. It kinda got a little too stupid in the last 2.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:12 PM   #19
fuzzyroes
Banned
 
Posts: 21,169
Default

Oh, I was meaning to reply to Shallow with that reply.

You bring up a good point about the plot-lines that go left unaddressed. I've only been through the first 3 seasons and there was already several. I'm having trouble thinking of the examples off the top of my head but Meadow doing meth seemed like the start of some story arc and then it just goes nowhere.

 
fuzzyroes is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:28 PM   #20
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

the whole series is based upon a comedy of errors.

might as well have starred charlie chaplin.

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:29 PM   #21
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

no wait what if walt and jesse were laurel and hardie?

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:30 PM   #22
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

https://68.media.tumblr.com/b6215a19...sa09o1_400.gif

how many lbs per week was that, jesse?

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:32 PM   #23
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

https://media.tenor.com/images/72ca6...eca6/tenor.gif

you're not being very scientific, stan!

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:33 PM   #24
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

https://media.giphy.com/media/52G4ridrz7fEY/giphy.gif

"i watched your girlfriend die"

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:36 PM   #25
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

https://68.media.tumblr.com/365131a1...ouwio1_400.gif

James Finlayson as Mike

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:38 PM   #26
slunken
Virgo
 
slunken's Avatar
 
Posts: 42,781
Default

https://media.tenor.com/images/11fe0...fdc1/tenor.gif

"why don't you do something to help me?!"

 
slunken is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 09:55 PM   #27
redbreegull
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
redbreegull's Avatar
 
Location: N3t4Euh Haus
Posts: 32,749
Default

when you guys are drunk, does music ever sound too fast or too slow to you?

 
redbreegull is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 10:01 PM   #28
teh b0lly!!1
Braindead
 
teh b0lly!!1's Avatar
 
Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS
Posts: 17,399
Default

no it sounds PERFECT

 
teh b0lly!!1 is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 10:11 PM   #29
redbreegull
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
redbreegull's Avatar
 
Location: N3t4Euh Haus
Posts: 32,749
Default

sometimes I also lose the ability to hear pitch properly. not just like I can't sing in pitch, but I can't even hear it properly when I am really drunk

 
redbreegull is offline
Old 07-26-2017, 10:16 PM   #30
teh b0lly!!1
Braindead
 
teh b0lly!!1's Avatar
 
Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS
Posts: 17,399
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by redbreegull View Post
sometimes I also lose the ability to hear pitch properly. not just like I can't sing in pitch, but I can't even hear it properly when I am really drunk
perhaps you're having difficulty hearing properly over the sounds of your body screaming for you to drink less

 
teh b0lly!!1 is offline
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is On
Google


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
So when is Jimmy coming back? Elphenor Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan Discussion 42 08-06-2021 01:57 PM
shit fuckers can type! sickbadthing General Chat Message Board 60 05-23-2019 11:18 AM
Something I have noticed... rottenugly General Chat Archive 38 04-17-2012 04:25 PM
my very original ask me questions thread dr.benway General Chat Archive 27 08-04-2009 05:26 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:34 AM.




Smashing Pumpkins, Alternative Music
& General Discussion Message Board and Forums
www.netphoria.org - Copyright © 1998-2022