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Old 07-31-2018, 09:42 PM   #241
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For me at this point, My Zeitgeist listening is strictly limited to: Tarantula, That's The Way, Pomp, Come On Let's Go and Stellar. That's a pretty nice handful of good songs, even if the rest of the material doesn't interest me anymore.

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:44 PM   #242
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I don't think it's terrible just pushed pretty hard but I mean JC's drums are still punchy enough for a good sonic kick in the balls so I can't hate on it

As for For God & Country, that's one of the songs like Appels + Oranjes where I feel like I'm one of like 5 people who actually really like it and can't understand why that's the case
Yeah, JC definitely rips it.

For what it's worth, I really liked the album at the time. I was genuinely excited by the new material and wanted to hear it live. It hasn't aged well for me though, but some music just doesn't.

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:45 PM   #243
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Pomp studio version may be one of my least favorite Pumpkins tracks - the solo is great or whatever but that sure isn't gonna save it. Early live versions are great tho

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:47 PM   #244
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Appel and Orange Juice rips. Did not care for it at first, but it sells that corny drum and bass shit pretty well.

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:50 PM   #245
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It's one of the greatest things on Adore, imo, and there's not much else quite like it in their discog

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 10:15 PM   #246
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as cringe-worthy as (...) Never Lost
You go to hell, sir

You go to hell and you die

I can understand angles behind disliking virtually any song off ZG, though I don't think the album's anywhere near as bad as it's made out to be, but Neverlost in particular is the only one on the standard version of the album I thought at launch and still think was fucking great.

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 10:16 PM   #247
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Yeah I thought that was a weird-ass one to single out too but, you know, figured it'd have more of an "army" behind it than G&C

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Old 07-31-2018, 10:54 PM   #248
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Tarantula rules

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Old 07-31-2018, 11:43 PM   #249
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Tarantula rules

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Itís a hell of a lot better than Solara thatís for sure

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:45 PM   #250
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Solara kind of sounds like it could have been the third single off Zeitgeist after Tarantula and That's the Way.

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:55 PM   #251
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Tarantula rules

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yeah one the best post-2000 songs and the best on Zeitgeist

 
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:55 PM   #252
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and one of Bill's greatest pop songs

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:07 AM   #253
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:42 AM   #254
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Tarantoola

 
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Old 08-02-2018, 02:41 PM   #255
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Really? I think it's one of the more charming and enduring songs lyrically on the album. It was one of the few songs on the album that really had the vintage Pumpkins fee.
I feel like it almost has the vintage Pumpkins feel; the vocals are okay, the guitar parts all sound good, it's up tempo... but those lyrics just ruin if for me. "That's the way I care"? Srsly, Billy? I don't care that it's a love song; those are just shit lyrics unless you're trying to write bubblegum pop (and even then, I would think you need to try a little harder). Fuck sake, Fifth Harmony has better lyrics than that.

As for Neverlost... I might like that song if the chorus wasn't so similar to Blissed and Gone (a song that I like a lot better).

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Old 08-02-2018, 03:12 PM   #256
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shitegeist blows cthulhic bone

 
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Old 08-07-2018, 02:02 PM   #257
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...tgeist-248217/

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Old 08-26-2018, 05:06 PM   #258
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This show was uploaded in July...cool!

>>>



Part 2: https://youtu.be/GoRMqYRCMao
Part 3: https://youtu.be/U6hQW0IaigU
Part 4: https://youtu.be/M4H3YBMM0rw
Part 5: https://youtu.be/vVexelB1V2c
Part 6: https://youtu.be/A_POUcARQw0
Part 7: https://youtu.be/8lbMu8IbKkA
Part 8: https://youtu.be/pRXVE7gYoj4
Part 9: https://youtu.be/wxLvyFOpNic
Part 10: https://youtu.be/vpXFeVQKuTY

 
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:32 PM   #259
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MOVE ON

 
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:26 PM   #260
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y u butthurt, bro?

 
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:24 PM   #261
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zeitgeist blows (now and then)

 
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:28 PM   #262
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Solara kind of sounds like it could have been the third single off Zeitgeist after Tarantula and That's the Way.
At least if it had been produced w/ that batch of songs the snare would have some ring to it

People complained so much about Z production but at least if it was with that batch of songs the snare would have some ring to it and the drums in general wouldn't sound so "Byrned up"

 
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:06 PM   #263
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Tarantula rules

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The guitar is fun and the verses are catchy. The chorus is the weakest part imo

 
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:06 AM   #264
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I feel like Tarantula is pretty strong overall, I just wish Billy would have tried a little harder with the lyrics. They’re not terrible but they’re not particularly good either, and there are some really cringy moments (“I don’t wanna fight every single night”, “I want to be there when you're happy, I want to love you when you're sad”). And then there was that stupid video. Sheesh.

It’s kinda funny though; I remember when the song came out, the reactions from people here and over at Blamo were mixed at best. Little did we all know that Tarantula would be better than so much of what came after.

 
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:53 AM   #265
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I remember people saying it sounded like an MCR song which just confirmed they’d never heard an MCR song

 
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:18 AM   #266
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I remember people comparing it to Zwan, which I could kinda see, but even that comparison is questionable. Lyrically, I'd rank most of Zwan's music higher than most of the SP2 stuff. Music-wise, it varies but Zwan is definitely the better of the two. I've only really heard MSOTS and a couple of other (poorly recorded) live tracks from Zwan, but I'd say that the majority of it sounds like a lighter, more 60s/70s-inspired Pumpkins. It's good and I wish they would have continued to make music because I'm intrigued as to where it could have gone. SP2 often sounds like an SP cover band with a few bright spots here and there.

 
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Old 08-27-2018, 08:54 PM   #267
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thank you for this! at the time, i was so angry about the so-called reunion that i ignored the whole tour for z. now i watch this and see some cool stuff, particularly the execution of hummer and home. but it's also got what i wanted from this 30th anniversary shit-- smaller stage setup, more direct and intimate feel, and a setlist with some surprises.

 
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:04 AM   #268
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Man, That's the Way really is the best song from Zeitgeist. United States is a close second but the album version is so inferior to the live version.

 
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:22 AM   #269
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I saw the Zeitgeist show in Auckland, New Zealand when I was traveling there. It was pretty good. I met Jimmy at a drum shop in Auckland before the show. I asked him if they could please play Gossamer though, and he was like nope.. haha That was my disappointment. I just wanted a 15 minute Gossamer live and didn't get it.. fucking Billy.. haha

 
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Old 08-28-2018, 02:06 AM   #270
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tarantula is probably the best sp2 song

 
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