Setlist Los Angeles, CA, USA on October 5, 2011 - Page 8

LaBelle · 10-07-2011, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grox

also where the fuck is the recording

this

also, selling the usb stick on the website is pretty dumb, it gets way overpriced and it would take forever to get to me (I'm in brazil). there should be a digital download option.

brendo_91 · 10-07-2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amoergosum

It's ALWAYS the drummer. You can't blame the tuning of a drumset for overplaying and not grooving very well.
Give Jimmy Chamberlin a kid's toy drumset and he'll sound fantastic.

Nah, I think Slingero is partially right, kid's also a cymbal basher and has a bit jerkier feel.

Grox · 10-07-2011, 09:33 AM

he's just not as subtle. or powerful. but he's ok. bills guitar work is more integral to the band than the drumming

SlingeroGuitaro · 10-07-2011, 09:39 AM

"silvercrank"

http://t.co/YvEasWkV

MyOneAndOnly · 10-07-2011, 09:44 AM

90% of the "fans" today don't even notice the drumming difference. It's just the small group of us that piss away our lives online obsessing over it.

A friend of mine went to a show in 2010 and didn't realize that Jeff wasn't james. After the show she asked me "what happened to D'arcy?" I said, "none of the old members are in the band anymore!" She didn't believe me. i said, "did you notice that there was an 18 year old playing drums?"

There are also "new" fans like my wife who never even know the old music. THIS is SP to them, Billy, Jeff, Nicole, Mike. They dont' know it any other way.

MyOneAndOnly · 10-07-2011, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlingeroGuitaro

"silvercrank"

http://t.co/YvEasWkV

"peter piper picked a peck of pickled peppers...."

"sally sells sea shells by the sea shore...."

Extremis · 10-07-2011, 09:49 AM

I agree with you man. Most average listeners wouldnt notice at all the difference in playing. Honestly compared to many other bands they play like gods. Point is that it was always billy and co

Grox · 10-07-2011, 09:54 AM

jesus...silverfuck rules too......this is actually happening

T&T · 10-07-2011, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlingeroGuitaro

"silvercrank"

http://t.co/YvEasWkV

:no:
i'm sorry, billy don't feel my pain anymore. I don't lie to myself either, i'm not 15.

bigleaguechew · 10-07-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasminetea

We all know Jimmy would do it better than Mike. Who's as good as Jimmy then? That's obvious, I cannot think of what's more obvious than that. And to be honest I really cannot think of a drummer who'd do better than Mike, except Jimmy of course. I wouldnt hesitate to say that Mike is awesome in those new songs and doing good job in old songs.

ah come on man you really don't believe that bit do you? there are session drummers galore around the world who could handle this job with style and grace. not to mention the handful of hardened vets in pro bands that could handle it. but no, billy clearly wanted to go with the young drummer he can help mold. even though i really wish it wasn't so as i'm fine with the other members, sometimes ALL i can hear is that guys playing not meshing with the rest of the band and that's a bad sign indeed.

T&T · 10-07-2011, 10:15 AM

well after going to the jimmy thread that isle started... there's no comparing. mike is a joke compared to the monster of a drummer that jimmy is. it's embarrassing.

??? · 10-07-2011, 10:20 AM

aw, t+t, that's harsh. mike is the ONLY guy on the planet living a dream that many of us would kill for. and out of all the auditionees, he was apparently the best. his improvs in the audition footage were miraculous. i've tried out dozens of drummers in the last few years and not one of them could play half as well. he's filling the biggest drumming shoes we know of and he's doing a respectable job. but of course it will leave us pining for jimmy's return, which i'm sure we'll see sooner or later.

reprise85 · 10-07-2011, 10:36 AM

I think part of the drumming problem is just the difference in the scope of kits used. Jimmy used a fucking ridiculous amount of drums and cymbals and that made his playing much more nuanced than Mike's

LaBelle · 10-07-2011, 10:40 AM

new songs sound good, too.
but I will eat my hat if any of these survive billy's studio treatment...

Extremis · 10-07-2011, 10:40 AM

Well of course theres a bunch of other drummers that could have filled in the spot but obviously billy saw something special in this kid and will stick by him. He has much potential. I know hes not jimmy but I still manage to enjoy his drumming.

brendo_91 · 10-07-2011, 10:42 AM

brann dailor of mastodon would have made an amazing replacement... progressive sludge metal's king of the single stroke roll.

but back on topic kind of... holy shit has byrne lost his baby fat or what?

RenewRevive · 10-07-2011, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

A friend of mine went to a show in 2010 and didn't realize that Jeff wasn't james. After the show she asked me "what happened to D'arcy?" I said, "none of the old members are in the band anymore!" She didn't believe me. i said, "did you notice that there was an 18 year old playing drums?"

lol

well Jeff only brings half the asianess that James did.

paranoid · 10-07-2011, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo

fuck up. This is Netphoria. If Jimmy killed someone then we'd all probably still love him.

7/12/96 never forget.

dustrock · 10-07-2011, 11:02 AM

Oceania sounded pretty great, definitely one of the better songs he's done in the last 10 years.

Panopticon and Quasar sound better than TBK and most of Zeitgeist.

The songs have the right feel, I just don't think his songwriting chops are as good as they used to be.

If he busted out something new as good as TEG, SIYL or Age of Innocence, I'd be pretty surprised.

lala · 10-07-2011, 11:05 AM

my love is winter (new version) is amazing. good one billy

brendo_91 · 10-07-2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

7/12/96 never forget.

I'm going to assume everyone knows that this song is about Jonathan:

slunken · 10-07-2011, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendo_91

brann dailor of mastodon would have made an amazing replacement... progressive sludge metal's king of the single stroke roll.

but back on topic kind of... holy shit has byrne lost his baby fat or what?

absorbed into billy

Eulogy · 10-07-2011, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

90% of the "fans" today don't even notice the drumming difference. It's just the small group of us that piss away our lives online obsessing over it.

A friend of mine went to a show in 2010 and didn't realize that Jeff wasn't james. After the show she asked me "what happened to D'arcy?" I said, "none of the old members are in the band anymore!" She didn't believe me. i said, "did you notice that there was an 18 year old playing drums?"

There are also "new" fans like my wife who never even know the old music. THIS is SP to them, Billy, Jeff, Nicole, Mike. They dont' know it any other way.

oh my god would you shut the fuck up already

your friend and wife sound dumb.

Eulogy · 10-07-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esty

Haven't heard it. not in a rush to.

Its sad to see how "low the bar is/expectations are" for the people here to get excited with this band.

Also, talk some sense into eulogy. He seems like a man of principle. To see him in this thread irritates me since he was so angry at corgan just a month ago.

i'm still mad at him, and i think he's crazy and kind of dumb. and mean spirited.

but that doesn't make me want to hear pissant or window paine live any less.

samuel redman · 10-07-2011, 12:01 PM

the build up of window paine will make the show

glad i got tickets now

dustrock · 10-07-2011, 12:15 PM

someone on monte's blog said they got the USB, soundboard quality and not too shabby. hopefully upload soon.

My Love Is Winter might as well be a completely different song. I kinda miss the guitar wankery at the end, but it almost sounds like a Machina track now.

I have a feeling I'm going to get a little sick of Jeff's delay-or-whatever-heavy guitar tone, because he seems to use that lead tone too much, but maybe it's just me.

BlissedandGone2 · 10-07-2011, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85

I think part of the drumming problem is just the difference in the scope of kits used. Jimmy used a fucking ridiculous amount of drums and cymbals and that made his playing much more nuanced than Mike's

this is partially true, but its also not just that mikes kit is smaller. his kit just sounds cheap to me. pretty flat.

amoergosum · 10-07-2011, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85

I think part of the drumming problem is just the difference in the scope of kits used. Jimmy used a fucking ridiculous amount of drums and cymbals and that made his playing much more nuanced than Mike's

This comment deserves the >>>

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2536/...54cce78f13.jpg

Kahlo · 10-07-2011, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dustrock

My Love Is Winter might as well be a completely different song. I kinda miss the guitar wankery at the end, but it almost sounds like a Machina track now.

I want to hear this like, right now.

MyOneAndOnly · 10-07-2011, 12:52 PM

monte has more clips from LA online...

http://crestfallen.com/2011/10/05/th...ns-show-in-la/

I miss the zeitgeist costumes. i want jeff back in that white cape

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10-07-2011, 09:33 AM	#213
Grox Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,695	he's just not as subtle. or powerful. but he's ok. bills guitar work is more integral to the band than the drumming

10-07-2011, 09:39 AM	#214
SlingeroGuitaro Starbucks addicted minion Location: Billy Corgan Kazoo Revue Posts: 6,629	"silvercrank" http://t.co/YvEasWkV

10-07-2011, 09:44 AM	#215
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,882	90% of the "fans" today don't even notice the drumming difference. It's just the small group of us that piss away our lives online obsessing over it. A friend of mine went to a show in 2010 and didn't realize that Jeff wasn't james. After the show she asked me "what happened to D'arcy?" I said, "none of the old members are in the band anymore!" She didn't believe me. i said, "did you notice that there was an 18 year old playing drums?" There are also "new" fans like my wife who never even know the old music. THIS is SP to them, Billy, Jeff, Nicole, Mike. They dont' know it any other way.

10-07-2011, 09:49 AM	#217
Extremis anti anti anti Location: New York Posts: 148	I agree with you man. Most average listeners wouldnt notice at all the difference in playing. Honestly compared to many other bands they play like gods. Point is that it was always billy and co

10-07-2011, 09:54 AM	#218
Grox Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,695	jesus...silverfuck rules too......this is actually happening

10-07-2011, 10:15 AM	#221
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,675	well after going to the jimmy thread that isle started... there's no comparing. mike is a joke compared to the monster of a drummer that jimmy is. it's embarrassing.

10-07-2011, 10:20 AM	#222
??? Minion of Satan Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ Posts: 8,658	aw, t+t, that's harsh. mike is the ONLY guy on the planet living a dream that many of us would kill for. and out of all the auditionees, he was apparently the best. his improvs in the audition footage were miraculous. i've tried out dozens of drummers in the last few years and not one of them could play half as well. he's filling the biggest drumming shoes we know of and he's doing a respectable job. but of course it will leave us pining for jimmy's return, which i'm sure we'll see sooner or later.

10-07-2011, 10:36 AM	#223
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	I think part of the drumming problem is just the difference in the scope of kits used. Jimmy used a fucking ridiculous amount of drums and cymbals and that made his playing much more nuanced than Mike's

10-07-2011, 10:40 AM	#224
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,398	new songs sound good, too. but I will eat my hat if any of these survive billy's studio treatment...

10-07-2011, 10:40 AM	#225
Extremis anti anti anti Location: New York Posts: 148	Well of course theres a bunch of other drummers that could have filled in the spot but obviously billy saw something special in this kid and will stick by him. He has much potential. I know hes not jimmy but I still manage to enjoy his drumming.

10-07-2011, 10:42 AM	#226
brendo_91 Minion of Satan Location: ██████████ Posts: 6,476	brann dailor of mastodon would have made an amazing replacement... progressive sludge metal's king of the single stroke roll. but back on topic kind of... holy shit has byrne lost his baby fat or what?

10-07-2011, 11:02 AM	#229
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,072	Oceania sounded pretty great, definitely one of the better songs he's done in the last 10 years. Panopticon and Quasar sound better than TBK and most of Zeitgeist. The songs have the right feel, I just don't think his songwriting chops are as good as they used to be. If he busted out something new as good as TEG, SIYL or Age of Innocence, I'd be pretty surprised.

10-07-2011, 11:05 AM	#230
lala Banned Location: SPoceania Posts: 915	my love is winter (new version) is amazing. good one billy

10-07-2011, 12:01 PM	#235
samuel redman Apocalyptic Poster Location: You're 22 why aren't you free?You're 22 why aren't you free? you're mom and daddy's victory Posts: 4,874	the build up of window paine will make the show glad i got tickets now

10-07-2011, 12:15 PM	#236
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,072	someone on monte's blog said they got the USB, soundboard quality and not too shabby. hopefully upload soon. My Love Is Winter might as well be a completely different song. I kinda miss the guitar wankery at the end, but it almost sounds like a Machina track now. I have a feeling I'm going to get a little sick of Jeff's delay-or-whatever-heavy guitar tone, because he seems to use that lead tone too much, but maybe it's just me.

10-07-2011, 12:52 PM	#240
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,882	monte has more clips from LA online... http://crestfallen.com/2011/10/05/th...ns-show-in-la/ I miss the zeitgeist costumes. i want jeff back in that white cape