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Old 06-19-2017, 04:57 AM   #991
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Crazy that Gish and Siamese Dream were only 2 CD + 1DVD each and adore was 6CD+DVD.

Not that I'm complaining about how full of content the later reissues were, but damn if we never the pre-Gish stuff it'll be a shame he didn't just load the Gish release with them. Or at least a full CD dedicated to it. SD likewise deserved more. The live stuff might not have been available in the same quality as we saw on the MCIS or Adore era, but at least for the SD reissue I was hoping for more from the tapes used to make Earphoria. (i.e. the Astoria show or the Atlanta show).
Because Pisces Iscariot

 
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:54 AM   #992
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lol
didn't corgan say he was releasing a solo album in a few months, like over a year ago?

what a hopeless cunt

 
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:34 PM   #993
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Every now and then I muse over various funny parallels between Billy Corgan and Robert Smith. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say the Pumpkins were to the 90's as the Cure were to the 80's, but it certainly does strike me as funny how both Corgan and Smith were both these alt-rock quasi-sex symbols who later gained a shit-ton of weight and became locked in perpetual cycles of announcing they'll release shit and never following through. I wonder who's got a higher tally. Probably Billco.

I'm drunk at work

When's this fucking thing coming out

 
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Old 06-22-2017, 07:14 PM   #994
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remember that puppet show with robert smith and james iha

the fuck was that shit about

 
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Old 06-22-2017, 07:18 PM   #995
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Quasi-sex is my fav

 
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Old 06-22-2017, 08:05 PM   #996
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remember that puppet show with robert smith and james iha

the fuck was that shit about
His last great work, IMO.

It's so weird to remember that Corgan could still laugh at himself not 10 years ago.

 
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:46 AM   #997
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Because Pisces Iscariot
Exactly. Once you consider Pisces Iscariot, then you realize Gish and Siamese Dream were technically 3 discs each when you combine Pisces Iscariot's 2CDs worth of material from Gish/SD era plus a demo tape.

 
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:22 AM   #998
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It really fuckin blows that the Pisces reissue has technical issues (track timing) and completely changed original tracks (plume)

 
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:58 AM   #999
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Remember how he was going off about how he might release Mi and MII together ""Not as he would have in 2000", but the way he wanted to do it "currently", and he was even mentioning modern guest vocalists at one point?

I'm starting to wonder if in addition to all the legal issues the reissue was/is facing, his being on buddy-buddy terms with the whole original band might have prevented him from releasing a complete clusterfuck botch job, got him to reevaluate his old legacy and he wisely put the brakes on it, wanting to finish it with the rest of the band present for input.

 
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:20 PM   #1000
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it would be awful if he actually recorded new parts for this. i assume it's still trapped in legal limbo. i know they already started culling material for the reissue, but that was years ago...

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:23 PM   #1001
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So now we know they are playing songs from "Gish" to "Machina"... Maybe it`s about time?

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:24 PM   #1002
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Machina: The Jeff & Linda Edition

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:28 PM   #1003
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i absolutely never learn.

I really thought there was a chance this bigboy countdown announcement would come with - a new single, the tour dates, and the sale date of the machina reissue.
(importance being the other way around.)

to get the old fanbase (part of it) from back then a tiny bit interested to still go see them on the sell-out tour, when you get the machina reissue around the same time.

silly me. (also what a wasted opportunity.)

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #1004
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I'd be more excited about a machina reissue than this latest reformation. It does seem like it's a label issue however...

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #1005
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an issue that was not solved in how many years now? yea... I bet.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:40 PM   #1006
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This tour announcement ended up being more like a queef rather than an explosive pants ruining shart it could have been.

Machina reissue is the only thing that can save this mess.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:55 PM   #1007
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an issue that was not solved in how many years now? yea... I bet.
You clearly don't have a clue about how long legal proceedings/ rights management can take. I'm not saying that Corgan isn't messing people around, but yeah.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:02 PM   #1008
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Excellent hissy fit in my rep comments. Thanks Pavementtune!

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:02 PM   #1009
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hissy fit? "you clearly have no clue" little girl? "clever"?

can you be any more condescending? I told you to fuck off. and I mean it.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:08 PM   #1010
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Cool beans Pavementtune. Cool Beans.

I have no idea what you mean, but yeah. Have a hug.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:48 PM   #1011
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we're never fucking getting this. BC knows it's the last piece people need before they close the door on the band so he'll never let it happen. Another unfinished project to add to the list

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:47 AM   #1012
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The Machina reissue pisses me off like nothing else.

Where is Monte?

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:51 AM   #1013
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yeah this is fucked up

fuck billy corgan

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:51 AM   #1014
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we're never fucking getting this. BC knows it's the last piece people need before they close the door on the band so he'll never let it happen. Another unfinished project to add to the list
bingo

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:57 PM   #1015
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On Instagram, Billy is asking people for song requests for the upcoming tour. I'm gonna ask for the Machina reissue boxset.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:40 PM   #1016
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an issue that was not solved in how many years now? yea... I bet.
You clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Billy took longer than initially expected, but he did get the reissues out on a semi-regular basis. Didn't he start working on some of the early work before the Adore reissue came out?

I'm sure it was some kind of rights/label issue, and I'm sure they have no desire to release this album. They probably didn't want to release anything after Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. At the very least, The Aeroplane Flies High came out of MCIS sessions and Adore had the promotional angle of being an "underrated" album. Machina was pretty much reviled the few months after it came out, and then quickly forgotten. Other than people who know "The Everlasting Gaze" and "Stand Inside Your Love" from the greatest hits album, I'm sure a lot of casual fans do not even know the album (or Machina II) exists. In these type of "reunion" tours, the label usually just wants a new song or two to track onto some reissue of an old greatest hits album or a new greatest hits album; something that does not cost a lot of money. It even looks like that's exactly how it will go. The band will get to drop a new single "produced" by Rick Rubin (meaning he might have jotted some notes down on a napkin after hearing a demo or slept on the couch in the studio while the band recorded) that dated from 2014/2015 and has James Iha playing a sustained note over certain parts of the song.

 
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:50 PM   #1017
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bla bla bla OK how about this one chaps?

Disc 1:
1. Glass Theme
2. Cash Car Star
3. Imploding Voice
4. Wound
5. Sacred + Profane
6. Stand Inside Your Love
7. Real Love
8. Raindrops + Sunshowers
9. Glass + The Ghost Children
10. This Time

Disc 2:
1. Everlasting Gaze
2. Try Try Try
3. Heavy Metal Machine
4. White Spyder
5. Speed Kills
6. I of the Mourning
7. Blue Skies Bring tears
8. Age of Innocence
9. Home
10. With Every Light

There you go. Two 45-minute discs, ten songs each, in story/concept order. Just enough songs to communicate the story without bogging it down with bloated boring filler that drags the album (In My Body, etc).

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Old 02-25-2018, 07:51 PM   #1018
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boring filler (In My Body)
Try again.

 
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:14 PM   #1019
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Does anyone actually care about the story? I just want killer drums and pretty Iha leads and good vocals and loud guitar

 
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:08 AM   #1020
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snoiclovenoize cares about the story.

 
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