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View Poll Results: Indicate your stance on firearms:
I have one or more firearms, and i like them 7 16.28%
I don't have any firearms, but i wish that i did / plan on getting some 12 27.91%
I don't have or want any firearms myself, but have no problem with anyone having them if they want 5 11.63%
I don't have or want any firearms, and feel that most people should not be allowed to have them 19 44.19%
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:58 PM   #151
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I have a 9mm for my job. The only reason is because of the sensitive nature of what is in the building I am paid to protect. The only time I have ever used it is at the gun range when we practice or need to renew our licenses with the KCPD.

I have thought about getting one for protection, but I think that would definitely have to wait until I have (if I ever do) a family; mainly because I don't have a whole lot to protect right now. Even then, it would be locked and hid.

The people in the security department almost all have a hard on for guns - save me, my Jehovah's Witness boss (who doesn't carry one), a gay dude, and a Jewish dude.
One guy subscribes to a gun magazine and constantly talks about guns. ALL THE TIME. Oh, and how Obama is a socialist. That's the kind of person who scares me.

I don't really ever want to use a weapon on someone, EVER, but if someone is breaking in or some looney from PETA/ALF/ELF want to start trouble, I have no problem drawing my weapon. I also have no problem gunning someone down if they were making off with the highly sensitive material inside said building I am paid to protect.
Will this ever happen? 99.9% sure, no.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:00 PM   #152
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Attention everyone: It is extremely easy to make a semi-automatic gun into an automatic gun, and many guns are built to be automatics and just have that ability disabled.
as soon as you are doing that you are breaking the law.

the amount of crimes with small, cheap crappy guns VASTLY outnumbers the amount of crimes committed with big, high powered ones

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:02 PM   #153
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an easy statistic because small guns exist in greater numbers, mainly because they are legal, and are easier to smuggle and sell illegally. also they are cheap. criminals don't want to make major investments on high powered assault weaponry when a small caliber pistol will do.

use some critical thinking before you start spouting off statistics that don't mean/prove anything thank you

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:04 PM   #154
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it's like saying beer brewed with hops sells better than beer brewed with turds.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:07 PM   #155
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as long as the other guy isn't armed with a gun, I think I'd be good with a baton or something to protect my house / family.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:07 PM   #156
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I have a knobkerrie here with easy access in case of emergency situations.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:08 PM   #157
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if the guy wasn't armed I dont think I could hit him in the head, to be honest.
I'd probably just go for collar bones.
Unless rape was on the cards. Then I'd kill.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:10 PM   #158
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an easy statistic because small guns exist in greater numbers, mainly because they are legal, and are easier to smuggle and sell illegally. also they are cheap. criminals don't want to make major investments on high powered assault weaponry when a small caliber pistol will do.

use some critical thinking before you start spouting off statistics that don't mean/prove anything thank you
no shit dumbass

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:13 PM   #159
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it's like saying beer brewed with hops sells better than beer brewed with turds.
no its not, its like saying cheap beer sells more then expensive beer.

Why don't you try some critical thinking

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:20 PM   #160
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no shit dumbass
so why did you say it angry person

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:32 PM   #161
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so why did you say it angry person
because even if machine guns were legal and available, i don't think you would see a sudden upswing in the "high-profile angry dude with body armor and high power weapons in a stand-off taking down 10 cops" type of crimes. There will always be crazy people, and they will always do crazy things regardless of what the laws are.

no one here is angry

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:37 PM   #162
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so if the laws are irrelevant, why are you toting on about them like some kind of gospel invisible shield?

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:37 PM   #163
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live free or die.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:38 PM   #164
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so if the laws are irrelevant, why are you toting on about them like some kind of gospel invisible shield?

they aren't at all.. all these angles are confusing me and maybe it was a poor choice of words on my part but the only point that i was trying to make is that i think that gun related crimes would stay at the same levels regardless of stricter / more relaxed regulation being put into place

I am in favor of some regulation, longer waiting periods mostly


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live free or die.
its the state motto of New Hampshire.. and a great philosophy that has nothing to do with guns

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Old 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM   #165
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live free or DIE.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:45 PM   #166
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live free or DIE.
exactly. you are catching on!

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:01 PM   #167
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how do longer waiting periods help?
In case you like, really want to murder someone right now, but you'd like to keep things legal, so you apply for a gun and 4 months down the line you're all, 'ah fuck it, I'm over that shit' ?

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:07 PM   #168
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i'd like to get one for protection. im a single girl living alone. i'd punch someone to death if they broke and tried to kill but pulling a trigger seems like less work.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:17 PM   #169
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how do longer waiting periods help?
In case you like, really want to murder someone right now, but you'd like to keep things legal, so you apply for a gun and 4 months down the line you're all, 'ah fuck it, I'm over that shit' ?
yeah

also it gives them time to do a background check

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:18 PM   #170
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they aren't at all.. all these angles are confusing me and maybe it was a poor choice of words on my part but the only point that i was trying to make is that i think that gun related crimes would stay at the same levels regardless of stricter / more relaxed regulation being put into place
I suppose but I still think it's a good idea to ban high powered weapons from public use.

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freedom is unattainable.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:21 PM   #171
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guns fascinate me.
so does this guy:


evidence dictates that this was prior to the cutting incident so i obviously cannot believe it was his father, but i am getting closer to the truth IF ONLY YOU HADN'T DIED AND LEFT ME WONDERING HEATH.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:40 PM   #172
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how do longer waiting periods help?
In case you like, really want to murder someone right now, but you'd like to keep things legal, so you apply for a gun and 4 months down the line you're all, 'ah fuck it, I'm over that shit' ?
they will reduce crimes of passion.. reduce gun violence from people being passionate and overreacting to situations from which they eventually come to their senses. if someone is willing to wait 4 months to plan how to kill someone.. no gun law on earth will stop them

also, as previously stated.. allows more time for a more thorough background check. I don't exactly know what is involved with the check they do in New Hampshire where i currently live.. but it only takes 5 minutes, literally. It cant possibly be that extensive..

this is gun regulation that will make a positive difference, i think. I like guns but have no problem waiting a little while longer to get them. What i am opposed to are rules based around the premmice of "well you can have a gun this deadly.. but if its just a bit more deadly then no.. you cant have that one." I think laws like that accomplish nothing.

 
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freedom is unattainable.
agree, but it should be the standard we strive for vice the alternative

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:49 PM   #174
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wait wait, what is the current waiting period?

 
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wait wait, what is the current waiting period?
differs from state to state.

NH is 5 min.. some states are 10 days.. and then there are different periods for handguns vice rifles in other states.. is all a clusterfuck

 
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corny video, but illustrates my point about stupid gun laws


 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:58 PM   #177
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oh okay, that changes things i guess.

here it's a pretty lengthy process. Months. You need specific training. it helps if you work as security or a resersvist. and other such things. apparently.

the iea of going and getting a gun, legally, in a matter of hours is baffling.

 
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here it's a pretty lengthy process. Months. You need specific training
i would be in favor of mandatory gun training also. It will be annoying and a pain in the ass for people who already know a thing or two.. but that is a small price to pay for having more responsible gun owners in the world. I knew a guy who shot himself in the hand because he was working on it.. in a vice.. while loaded...

what a complete fucking idiot

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it helps if you work as security or a resersvist. and other such things. apparently.
i would be opposed to that, private citizens should have equal access just the same as military and law enforcement personnel

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the iea of going and getting a gun, legally, in a matter of hours is baffling.
yea i guess when you think about it.

 
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agree, but it should be the standard we strive for vice the alternative
strive for the day we don't need to eat, sleep, shit and work?

sure. whatever.

 
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strive for the day we don't need to eat, sleep, shit and work?

sure. whatever.
ok, you can strive for slavery and oppression

 
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