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Old 03-03-2010, 06:02 PM   #1
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Default OMG...the Billy article in RS.

Some heavy shit. And it turns out "false but fun to pretend" IS ACTUALLY NOT PRETEND OR FALSE.

Billy Corgan on Pumpkins’ Split, “Loving” Jessica Simpson: Preview the Story : Rolling Stone : Rock and Roll Daily

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:03 PM   #2
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Default Hey, guess what - Jimmy didn't quit

Billy fired him last year.

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdail...iew-the-story/
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/boar...hp?showforum=2

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:05 PM   #3
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Gotchya by a minute.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:07 PM   #4
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Oh boy. This is going to be a fun thread.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:13 PM   #5
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What a fucking cunt BC turned into... And I was so hopeful during the Zwan era.
Gah.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:14 PM   #6
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mo's thread was better.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:16 PM   #7
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If he really was so stupid as to fire Jimmy, the best alternative rock drummer of all time, from his alternative rock band, then it is all over for SP. No hope. Bad management is bad management. We need a new GM for our rockband franchise.

Is there anyway we can hold open auditions for a new Billy Corgan?

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:19 PM   #8
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now now, i'm sure he had a really good reason for firing jimmy.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:21 PM   #9
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Holy fuck, did I misread this? He is talking about firing JC in the 90s ...right?

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:22 PM   #10
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now now, i'm sure he had a really good reason for firing jimmy.
Maybe he didn't want to join his fucking sect. Or go vegan. Gah.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:23 PM   #11
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:26 PM   #12
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I bet we could get james jimmy and d'arcy.
We could even recruit Matt and Melissa to be on the bench (opening every show, I suppose, and helping out on the epic jams).

We just need a new singer. Maybe Stephen Lynch is up for it?

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:30 PM   #13
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I like that career suicide line. Funny stuff.

I really hope that Jimmy wasn't fired for a second time.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:32 PM   #14
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:36 PM   #15
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It's amazing to me how quickly the canonical Netphorian SP narrative has shifted from "Jimmy left the band voluntarily to get away from Billy's idiocy," to "Billy's such an idiot that he forced Jimmy to leave the band against his will" in just a few minutes.

That said, I hope Billy had a good reason for firing him (and say what you will about the guy, but he's never been the type to act arbitrarily when it comes to personnel). I can't say I'm thrilled he's airing more dirty laundry out in Rolling Stone of all places, but if it clears up misinformation, then so be it.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:40 PM   #16
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Izzle (unsurprisingly) is saying that Billy is fucking with us all.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:42 PM   #17
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zoicks. firing jimmy.

if it's anything other than drug use....

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:42 PM   #18
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Izzle (unsurprisingly) is saying that Billy is fucking with us all.
That's what you call "naming an album Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness," not "making up lie after lie about the lives and works of many artists and insulting your fans in the process"

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:44 PM   #19
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It's amazing to me how quickly the canonical Netphorian SP narrative has shifted from "Jimmy left the band voluntarily to get away from Billy's idiocy," to "Billy's such an idiot that he forced Jimmy to leave the band against his will" in just a few minutes.

That said, I hope Billy had a good reason for firing him (and say what you will about the guy, but he's never been the type to act arbitrarily when it comes to personnel). I can't say I'm thrilled he's airing more dirty laundry out in Rolling Stone of all places, but if it clears up misinformation, then so be it.
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zoicks. firing jimmy.

if it's anything other than drug use....
Hmm, we don't know their personal dynamic. Firing however sounds so different from 'going their seperate ways' - I really don't think it would be a decision taken lightly.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:48 PM   #21
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right, we're always looking through a glass darkly, but "firing" suggests some inappropriate behaviour on the part of Jimmy.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:52 PM   #22
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in all likelihood, corgan probably just told jimmy to "get lost" in a pass-aggressive manner. then, jimmy had too much class to smear corgan or bring to light what happened.

i'm just saying.

 
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someone go get this fucking magazine already. jeez.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:54 PM   #24
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I tried picking it up at the Walgreens near my campus...they still had the old one up.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #25
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is anyone surprised?

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #26
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This is all some elaborate joke.

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:03 PM   #27
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From the Twitter feed of the author of RS article -

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Dear confused Pumpkins fans: Yes, Billy says in the story that he fired Jimmy Chamberlin in 2009. 8 minutes ago via web
Seems hard to misinterpret as the MCIS firing. Should be an interesting read

 
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:06 PM   #28
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ill be honest. i love Billy Corgan, and i agree with many things he says and the many aspects of the way he choses to live his life.

you all can can go rot

 
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he contemplated suicide again?

 
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I'm guessing it's a 'firing' as Jimmy clearly wasn't into it, but doggedly sticking with Billy through some sense of loyalty, at the cost of following his own musical intuition and spending time with his family.

 
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