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12-07-2012, 11:30 PM | #1 |
Minion of Satan
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Great article on mcis cover art
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12-07-2012, 11:47 PM | #2 |
Demi-God
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That's a great read! I've always been curious about the artist and never really tried to research. I think that the art, the whole package of the albums art and the videos all seemed really cool together. I think this a nice peek into that whole process.
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12-08-2012, 01:06 AM | #3 |
Virgo
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i read that the other day - really nice
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12-08-2012, 01:29 AM | #4 |
Minion of Satan
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12-08-2012, 02:04 AM | #5 |
Socialphobic
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I always really liked the texture of the cover artwork (BWBW single too).
I wonder now if it's just an artifact of his color photocopier i've always wondered what the copyright legalities of using collage material like this? |
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12-08-2012, 02:18 AM | #6 |
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12-08-2012, 02:22 AM | #7 | |
Virgo
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also - mass-produced printing plates from the victorian era were never under any copyright and if they were it would have expired long ago. so no matter where or how the image was lifted its fair game. whether it was printed today or 200 years ago. |
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12-08-2012, 12:47 PM | #8 |
Minion of Satan
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I have pretty sick and twisted mind, but how fucked up do you have to be to ever look at the MCIS cover and think the girl is masturbating?
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12-08-2012, 01:05 PM | #9 |
Minion of Satan
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Yes but WHAT ABOUT THE SECRET MESSAGE ON THE BULLET SINGLE!?!?
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12-08-2012, 01:08 PM | #10 |
Ownz
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Cool read. My assumption is Billy would deny all of it out of habit and call this guy a hack.
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12-08-2012, 01:33 PM | #11 | |
Minion of Satan
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Great...now I can't look at the cover anymore without thinking about that part of the article... |
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12-08-2012, 01:35 PM | #12 | |
Demi-God
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12-08-2012, 02:13 PM | #13 |
Socialphobic
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I thought the masturbating thing was obvious. maybe it was something I picked up on a museum tour when I was a kid.
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12-08-2012, 02:16 PM | #14 |
Pledge
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great article. I have always wondered about this! thanks so much for sharing!
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12-08-2012, 05:32 PM | #15 | ||
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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12-08-2012, 06:34 PM | #16 |
Banned
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it's not sick at all...do you think rider is a repressed catholic or something
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12-08-2012, 08:46 PM | #17 |
Minion of Satan
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12-09-2012, 05:59 AM | #18 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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Wow that article was quite fascinating. I would have never thought of those as having been collages lifted from actual vintage sources. Things like this really make me reaffirm my love of art even though I'm often repressing that side of myself. Fuck. I LOVE doing art projects and really admire the people who do clever shit like this.
The whole masturbation thing never occurred to me though - I just don't really see it. Holy shit NPR! |
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12-09-2012, 06:23 AM | #19 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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yes people. their best selling album had a masturbating woman on the cover. this signifies all that is right and wrong about the smashing pumpkins and their fans. discuss
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12-09-2012, 06:42 AM | #20 |
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i don't know if i'm biased because i grew up on these records but sd, mcis, and adore have all had spectacular art that greatly suited the spirit of each respective record
this article made me understand how hard it is to make somebody else GET your vision and follow through with it |
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12-09-2012, 08:20 AM | #21 |
*****
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This is bullshit. She's not masturbating. Don't ruin that cover for me with this filth. It's always been sacred and pure to me.
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12-11-2012, 01:24 PM | #22 |
Janis Jopleybird
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I am tantalized by the possibility that the article author's "research" into the origins of the cover just involved finding my original research:
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=115398 Then again, I suppose if I could do it, anyone could. |
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12-11-2012, 01:28 PM | #23 |
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12-11-2012, 01:35 PM | #24 |
Janis Jopleybird
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The Greuze, sure. Never saw anyone identify the body as being that Raphael painting of Catherine—excuse me, I mean my painting When I Wear Corduroy I Am a Man—prior to that thread.
Also it appears I was wrong about Craig doing an original painting based on both. Strange, as I swear I see details in the MCIS cover that I don't in the originals. Slight airbrushing here and there perhaps. |
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12-11-2012, 03:54 PM | #25 |
BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
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topleybird! where the fuck have you been? welcome back
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12-11-2012, 05:04 PM | #26 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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TopleyBird what is your opinion on the masturbation debate?
I kind of have to shake my head at the people who are all, "I DONT SEE IT." like... it actually looks exactly like that, not sure how you can not see it |
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12-11-2012, 05:16 PM | #27 |
Socialphobic
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like they said in the article - these suggestions were is as close as artists could get to show sexuality. Compared to modern triple anal gape videos available at the click of a mouse, I can accept that a hand near the crotch might not be taken as sexual.
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12-11-2012, 05:22 PM | #28 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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will you just look at it!
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12-11-2012, 05:26 PM | #29 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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12-11-2012, 05:37 PM | #30 |
Demi-God
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then you have d'arcy holding a carrot
http://www.geocities.ws/agirlnamedsa...collie_pic.gif 'food' for thought... |
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